Talk:Smoking (cooking)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Health effects

I have removed the following text:

"Eating a diet high in smoked, cured, or salted meats has been shown to be a risk factor in stomach cancer. Recent changes in processing techniques to decrease the amount of salt and sugar in smoked fish, however, have increased the risk that these food products may contain botulism toxin.

In addition to sugar and salt exposure, smoking can directly create compounds known to have long-term health consequences, namely polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, many of which are known or suspected carcinogens. These compounds result from incomplete combustion of the fuel; hotter wood fires make more PAHs; hot-burning mesquite produces twice as much as cooler-burning hickory. Drippings can also turn into carcinogens, which can deposit onto meat the same way that grilling has been found to be carcinogenic."

These two paragraphs make unsupported claims. References are required to support such claims and uphold Wikipedia's mandate of providing encyclopaedic content supported by the citation of verifiable sources. Robinjey1 (talk) 17:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Bradley Smokers

Hi, Im new to this so I hope I have done this correct (which is why im asking here as I take it this is not live and just for editors to check about what they put?), but anyway to what I wanted to check, I have entered a bit about bradley smokers as they are very good smokers and I think they can give a host of information about food smoking.

Please let me know if I need to change something or if what I have submitted is not right (I have read the introduction thingy but still want to check this is ok as I want to help not make work)

thanks! GSL-Nathan (talk) 15:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC) dont add crap about shit brands you like and think work great, no one else gives a shit and it makes the article biased 86.42.137.83 (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Well im sorry I did ask if it was ok to add and surly your comment is biased by saying things like "shit brand" and "no one else gives a shit"?!

I was on the understanding that any information was ok as its not self promotional? But if you dont like what I put and your that pissed off that I dont like what you like (which is again biased on your side) that I will no bother with this page and move on to another topic with adults that can talk and not bitch.

P.S. sorry to the rest of the editors here for this but I only asked a simple question (as it was my first try to help out here) and this guy went off on one so im just say my bit back as I feel he was wrong on how he commented. GSL-Nathan (talk) 20:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Tasteless smoke

This ingredient is used to treat meats and fish to prevent discoloration. I did a little research and some articles claimed it was the same as carbon monoxide, others said that it wasn't. can anyone confirm or deny this? Brinerustle (talk) 00:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Most cultural form

I removed the following text:

Because of the need for utensils such as the buccan, smoking is considered to be the most cultural form of cooking. Smoked food resists spoiling incomparably longer than that cooked by any other method.

I am not sure what this is supposed to mean. Canning surely requires more sophisticated utensils. Who considers it "the most cultural form of cooking"? Canned and freeze-dried foods surely resist spoilage for comparably long times. I left in a reference to the buccan, though. --Macrakis 07:37, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Why do people smoke their lobsters!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?--24.59.186.128 01:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

A reference to the temperatures attained during "hot smoking" is certainly incorrect - measures are given in Fahrenheit and Celsius, but the conversion doesn't look right. 80 Celsius is far less than 250 Fahrenheit. 24.76.107.100 16:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

80C is 175F, 250F is 122C Trumpy (talk) 04:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Chemistry

Someone has inserted a paraphrased quote that salt is itself an oxidant. As a chemistry major, I completely disagree with this statement. In no way can sodium chloride serve as an oxidant. It is dessicant, toxic to most forms of life, and in some situations can be corossive. Saying that salt can make fat go rancid is ridiculous. It has been for quite a long time to preserve pieces of meat, namely fish (salted cod) and pork (salt pork), the latter of which is very fatty. I am removing this quotation.

Dormroomchemist 21:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Smoker

Since smoker is somewhat redirected to here, this would be the place to discuss the different types of smokers designs. I added a photo for a propane smoker( i want a hammer). Expect to add one for a two box. Need help expanding to cover single box smoking, and perhaps some restaurant methods, rotisserie, etc. Sources would be swell, too, but it's a start. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 16:38, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Different types of smokers

I am a newbie here so I leave this suggestion with the hopes that someone more experienced will know what to do. Here is a good article on different smoker types, what to look for when buying a smoker, and reviews with links to many popular commercial products from backyard to commercial. http://www.amazingribs.com/BBQ_buyers_guide/smokers/smoker_checklist.html Quedude (talk) 18:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:COI problems aside, it's too ad-heavy and should not be included per WP:ELNO #5. --Ronz (talk) 17:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

It seems having both an "offset smokers" and the "smoke box method" section is redundant, since offset are used to do the smoke box method. Opinions on whether I should or shouldn't consolidate the two sections?-Lewzer99 (talk) 02:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Beech, not Alderwood

In Europe beech wood is most commonly used for smoking, not Alderwood. See european articles for "smoking", esp. the german one... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.107.179 (talk) 13:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)