Talk:Snow White design language

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Notable?[edit]

I'm not sure how this can be notable. Thoughts? --Ronz 03:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the world of product design, Snow White is a pretty notable as an example of a consistent, yet creative, design language. And, as the dominant design ethos of a major computer company, it's surely notable on its own. Ianbetteridge (talk) 14:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We need sources to back this, otherwise it could be put up for deletion. --Ronz (talk) 16:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/aug2004/nf20040813_8513_db016.htm is a place to start, notably this passage: "He [Esslenger] brilliantly capitalized on the fame that came with laying out the minimalist "Snow White" design language employed by Steve Jobs in Apple's groundbreaking products of the 1980s (Esslinger would also design the chic "Cube" PC made by Jobs' NeXT Computer in the late 1980s)." I don't think that he'd have garnered any fame for creating something that wasn't notable by Wikipedia standards :) Snow White was also featured heavily in a book, "AppleDesign" (http://www.amazon.com/Appledesign-Apple-Industrial-Design-Group/dp/1888001259/) which again, I think, indicates its notability. Ianbetteridge (talk) 17:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using uppercase for readability[edit]

As noted in the comments, frog design is all lowercase, but is being used as "Frog Design" in this article to "increase readability". I'm changing it back to the proper lowercase, as an encyclopedia needs to strive for accuracy even if it's not aesthetically pleasing. JakeZ (talk) 21:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Schizophrenic article[edit]

Is this article about a design language or is it about the design of the Apple IIc computer? It seems to be a messy mash-up of both. — Quicksilver^{T @} 04:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Successor Espresso design language[edit]

Snow White was succeeded by the Espresso design language [1] [2], maybe that could be added to the article? Bonomont (talk) 20:14, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unofficial designs[edit]

There's a whole list of machines there, that are made by Apple and look basically like Macs. A couple have descriptions indicating deviations from Snow White, but for most there's no indication at all what makes any of them more or less "official" than those listed in the "Implementation" section. Is "official" perhaps the wrong/misleading description here? Is the distinction that it is products that borrow elements from Snow White but introduce variations that place them outside the design language? But then the IIc is placed under "Implementation" after noting that it doesn't include all design elements... so it's really not clear to me what separates the two lists... 81.134.152.4 (talk) 15:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IBM was known as "Snow White", is there a connection?[edit]

I learned from the "Command Line Heroes" podcast S4E3 that IBM was known as Snow White back in the day. IBM apparently had seven small competitors, with GE (General Electric) among them.

Considering Apple's competing and standing up to IBM, in my opinion, in the past the name "Snow White" might have been percieved as a way of ridiculing IBM.

I'm not quite sure if my reasoning is valid. Did the name "Snow White design language" come out of Apple or was it given externally? Was Steve Jobs at Apple when the SWDL originated?

Ludger77 (talk) 18:27, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]