Talk:Sony α6000

Fairness

It's not really fair to say that while Sony claimed to be fastest the Nikon is actually faster. Well duh, the Nikon the article was referring to (the J4, which was not mentioned and I added), was announced several months after. Of course things newer are generally going to be better and faster. The wording makes it look like Sony just lied in their marketing, while in reality, it was true at the time of writing.

Darrellx (talk) 05:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Sony Naming convention

Ok, let's talk about the actual names of the Sony mirrorless cameras, since some people are getting confused by Sony's press releases.

There is a difference between the product name, and the model number. A good example of this is the Apple iPhone: for example, let's say I own an Apple iPhone 6. The product name of this device is "Apple iPhone 6", and the model number is the "A1549". See here for a list of the iPhone 6 model numbers: http://www.techwalls.com/differences-between-iphone-6-6-plus-models/

As we can see, there is a distinction between the name of the product, and the model number. A single product may comprise of different models (the iPhone 6 is a good example, with different models for GSM/CDMA etc). A single model may comprise of different product names (AMD graphics cards for example, when they rebranded the HD7xxx series into the R7 and R9 series; it's the same models though).

However, it's important to note that for Wikipedia articles, the product name is more important. This mirrors real life: nobody ever uses the model number says "oh man, I dropped my A1549". The reference is by product name: "oh man, I dropped my iPhone 6".

For Sony cameras, the product name is the "Sony A6000", and the model number is the "Sony ILCE-6000". (Well, the "A" in "A6000" is actually a stylized alpha symbol, so the name is "alpha" ... but that's a different discussion). The articles should note the model number, but it doesn't make sense to put it in the title- just like how the actual model numbers for the Apple and AMD devices (mentioned above) are not in the article title.

Sony also has model numbers for something else already... its lenses! Sony lenses have model numbers, such as "SAL-85F14Z". That's not the name of the lens though. The lens is called the Sony Alpha Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm f/1.4 ZA lens. Notice how the name of the wikipedia article isn't "SAL-85F14Z".

Basically, there is no real reason why we should have the model number front and center. Pages like this one: Sony ILCE camera makes no sense. It's like a page called "Apple iPhone models starting with A".

Teemome (talk) 04:11, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid, I don't agree with your bold article renames at all. These truncated names starting with "A" are crude attempts to write the names by people who either don't seem to find the α character on their keyboards or don't understand Sony's naming scheme, whereas the correct names of these cameras are "Sony α7", "Sony α7R", "Sony α7S", "Sony α7 II", "Sony α7R II", "Sony α6000", etc., that is with a lowercase letter "α" and an uppercase letter "R", "S" or "I". Their model names are "Sony ILCE-7", "Sony ILCE-7R", "Sony ILCE-7S", "Sony ILCE-7M2" and "Sony ILCE-7RM2", respectively. Since these models are part of the α family, it is also correct to name them "Sony α ILCE-7", "Sony α ILCE-7R", "Sony α ILCE-7S", "Sony α ILCE-7M2" and "Sony α ILCE-7RM2". However, there's no "A" at all anywhere in their name or model code (while there was in fact an "A" in the model names of the A-mount cameras, f.e. "DSLR-A900", "SLT-A99V" etc., and this is why these models were often abbreviated to "A900", "A99" etc.)

There's another problem: Unlike most of the other camera manufacturers, Sony is an electronics company manufacturing all kinds of products. They have a backlog of ten-thousands of products, with lots of name duplications if you omit the model code prefixes. For us, it is desireable to chose a consistent naming scheme which can be maintained in the long term. If we are using abbreviated names, there will be name conflicts (there already are quite a few with Konica Minolta and Minolta camera names). While we can use abbreviated names for redirects to catch alternative spellings for as long as they don't become conflictive, it is a bad idea to use abbreviated names in article titles.

The naming scheme should ideally be consistent at least over all Sony camera articles, so we have to consider not only the α, but also the Cyber-shot, SmartShot, Handycam, NXCAM, XDCAM families the least. The easiest way to avoid problems is to use Sony's model names as article titles, prefixed with "Sony " (because this is a scheme that has been consistently maintained by Sony for more than 3 decades already). Alternatively, the article titles could be prefixed with "Sony " plus the family name (α, Cyber-shot, SmartShot, Handycam, NXCAM, XDCAM), that is either "Sony ILCE-7R", "Sony DSC-F717" or "Sony α ILCE-7R", "Sony Cyber-shot DSC-F717". Yet another scheme, but only applicable to the α family, would be to use the actual names, f.e. "Sony α7R". But this scheme wouldn't work the other familes like Cyber-shots, as something like "Sony F717" is an abbreviation, not an actual camera name, and even if it was - by that logic we'd have to name the α camera article "Sony 7R" rather than "Sony α7R". So, the only way to really achieve consistency, avoid doublettes, don't use special characters and still not invent pseudo-names is to include the full model code in the article titles. Titles using pseudo-names like A7 are not only incorrect, but will be impossible to maintain in a consistent way in the long run, therefore they are the worst of all possible choices. Let's not open that can of worms. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 02:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

a6300

Why does the Sony α6300 redirect to this page? I'm under the impression both cameras are vastly different, especially in price. Oneultralamewhiteboy (talk) 06:15, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Past tense

Why is the whole article written in the past tense? Also:

>Review websites note that although the α6000 uses a 24MP sensor like the Sony NEX-7, the Sony α6000 can also be seen as more of a replacement of the Sony NEX-6.[4]

Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.80.186.203 (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)