Talk:Southern Nilotic languages

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Recent reversions by User:Cookiemonster1618[edit]

@Cookiemonster1618: If you're going to claim that the classification you just reverted this and several pages back to is the correct one, you need to add sources. As it currently stands, you're just asserting that the previous one is correct without evidence. Arctic Circle System (talk) 00:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kuulopuhe: As you are also involved in this via your recent edit on Acholi dialect, I'm pinging you as well. Arctic Circle System (talk) 00:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the source cited with evidence that proves that the classification system I used is the mainstream one and not one from glottolog.

https://www.ethnologue.com/subgroup/768/ Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 05:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look at both the Ethnologue and Glottolog classifications. They have some key differences (e.g. Nandi-Markweeta/Pökoot in Ethnologue corresponding to Central Kalenjin/Northern Kalenjin in Glottolog). I drew up a table of correspondence between the classifications given in the two sources.

Ethnologue	Glottolog
Kalenjin	Kalenjin
Elgon	Elgon-Mau Kalenjin
Kupsapiiny (kpz)	Kupsabiny
Sabaot (spy)	Sabaot
Nandi-Markweta
	Central Kalenjin
Kipsigis (sgc)	Kipsigis
Nandi
Keiyo (eyo)	Keiyo
Kisankasa (kqh)
Nandi (niq)	Nandi
Terik (tec)	Terik
Tugen (tuy)	Tugen
	Northern Kalenjin
Markweta (enb)	Markweeta
Pökoot (pko)	Pökoot
	Okiek-Akie
Okiek (oki)	Okiek
	Akie
Tatoga	Tatoga-Omotik
Omotik (omt)	Omotik
Datooga (tcc)	Gemein Datooga

Note that I flattened Glottolog's subdivisions of the Central Kalenjin group for easier comparison, and didn't list the languages given on Glottolog as part of the Gemein Datooga group. Also note that the sources used by Glottolog are Distefano 1985 and Rottland 1982; I couldn't find the exact sources Ethnologue used, however I will note that it seems to be considered a standard for language classification.

I shall be back at a later point to comment further. User:^Kuulo_puhe 00:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we are going by Ethnologue, I would recommend the following:

Kalenjin
- Elgon
  - Kupsabiny
  - Sabaot
- Nandi–Markweta
  - Nandi
    - Kipsigis
    - Kisankasa
    - Keiyo
    - Naandi
    - Terik
    - Tugen
  - Markweta
- Okiek
- Pökoot
Tatoga
- Datooga
- Omotik

User:^Kuulo_puhe 01:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]