Talk:Southern Ontario Tornado Outbreak of 2009

This article was nominated for deletion on 3 September 2009. The result of the discussion was keep.

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Related Discussion Regarding Deletion[edit]

Please see the related discussion regarding deletion here. Singularity42 (talk) 16:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD[edit]

This tornado outbreak is historic, the most prolific in recent memory in the province. This outbreak included a relatively rare Canadian killer tornado, produced tens of millions of dollars in damage (making it one of the costliest tornado events ever in Ontario), and spawned damaging tornadoes in densely populated sections of the Greater Toronto Area (specifically in the city of Vaughan, just north of Toronto). The rarity of these damaging urban tornadoes has prompted calls for a review of, and possibly changes to the tornado warning system in Canada. Thirteen tornadoes have been confirmed in the outbreak, making it one of the largest in the province's history and a meteorological rarity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TJF444 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Article Title[edit]

It looks like the AfD discussion is heading toward 'keep', so let's talk about an improved title for this article (currently "Central Ontario and GTA Tornado Outbreak, August 20 2009"). "August 2009 Ontario tornado outbreak" has been suggested in the AfD discussion; is there a better alternative? PK T(alk) 15:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that a title such as "August 2009 Ontario tornado outbreak" is more appropriate. I might also suggest "Ontario Tornado Outbreak of August 2009", but either seems perfectly acceptable. On another note, and this is something that I have wondered about regarding other Wikipedia articles; should not all words in a title be capitalized? Ie: "August 2009 Ontario Tornado Outbreak" as opposed to "August 2009 Ontario tornado outbreak"... TJF444 (talk) 15:26, 4 September 2009 (UTC)TJF444[reply]

Another thing... Durham, Ontario is in Grey County, which is a part of Southwestern Ontario, not Central Ontario. Considering the tornadoes struck in at least three different parts of Ontario (Southwestern, Central, and the GTA) maybe "Ontario" or "Southern Ontario" Outbreak would be better. DMighton (talk) 20:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the capitalization in titles, the answer is in the Manual of Style, section 2.1: "The initial letter of a title is capitalized (except in very rare cases, such as eBay). Otherwise, capital letters are used only where they would be used in a normal sentence" PK T(alk) 02:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Too keep in line with the conventions we normally use for tornado outbreaks, I recommend this page be move to 2009 Southern Ontario tornado outbreak. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:45, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merger[edit]

I agree with the merger. Sounds like a better idea... DMighton (talk) 03:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For what it is worth, I do not entirely agree with the merger and have strong feelings about the title. I believe that the title of this article should specify "Ontario"; the reason that this event is so exceptional directly relates to the rarity and historic significance within the province. The 1997 Southeast Michigan tornado outbreak is an article about a tornado outbreak that had the greatest impact in Michigan, but also included tornadoes in eight other American states and the province of Ontario. Similarly, I think that it is appropriate that this title reflect the extraordinary impact in Ontario, even though other tornadoes may have been associated in other areas. This is a particularly historic outbreak for Ontario and thus justifies the inclusion of "Ontario" in the title. I recommend Ontario tornado outbreak of 2009.TJF444 (talk) 04:10, 5 September 2009 (UTC)TJF444[reply]

Anything is better than the current title at this point... Durham was the only fatality, the first tornado in Ontario of the outbreak, and possibly the worst damage, and it isn't in either Central Ontario or the GTA. DMighton (talk) 09:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Per naming convention at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Tornado, August 2009 Ontario tornado outbreak seems the most appropriate title. TJF444 (talk) 13:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)TJF444[reply]

I tend to agree. I would like to wait a couple of more days before making it happen. PK T(alk) 16:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]