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Codo[edit]

In the "Generals characteristics" of the ship, the traditional Spanish unit of length "codo" is described as 564mm. Is there any reliable source to that statement? According to this source one codo is "about 417.5mm". This source says "about 416mm". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.161.17 (talk) 08:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cargo[edit]

The article needs to document and reference the weight of gold and silver cargo sunk along with the ship. This is what makes this article/galeon notorious. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk)

Doubloon[edit]

The doubloon in the accompanying illustration was minted nearly 100 years after the sinking of the San Jose . . . Maybe there's a more contemporary coin that could be used as an example? 199.108.124.254 (talk) 01:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's not all. The cited source actually says 7 - 11 million pesos (not doubloons nor 4-doubloons nor doubloons of any sort). If you do the math, 11 million 4 doubloons would weigh about 300 metric tons, which would take an eternity to shovel on and off the ship. 11 million pesos is much more believable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.52.1.13 (talk) 21:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The source trail for "7 - 11 million pesos" seems to circle back around to an un-cited claim on the Wager's Action wiki page, while Sea Search Armada claims "an estimated $4 billion to $17 billion of coins and bullion" in their court case over the wreck (Sea Search Armada v. ?Republic of Colombia), and the Economist article claims "200 tonnes of gold, silver and emeralds" 2600:6C58:617F:99F9:80F7:8847:46A6:925E (talk) 07:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cargo value[edit]

The cargo value here is very confusing. It says estimated $1bn, then in the explanation of the gold value $11.5bn, and news articles today are saying $17bn? Maybe the $1bn was the value when it sank in the 1700s, the $11.5 is today's gold-only value, and $17bn is gold+other treasure. Would be great if someone with knowledge could clarify.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/San-Jose-Shipwreck-Discovery-Woods-Hole-Oceanographic-Institution-483336881.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand

75.104.68.97 (talk) 14:43, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

With gold at $41.83 a gram, 10 million pesos at 27 grams of 0.92 gold each gives me $10.4 billion. In addition, there was an unknown quantity of silver coins. That assumes you melt it all down for bullion. The nicer coins can be sold to collectors for a premium. What collector wouldn't want a coin from the "holy grail of shipwrecks"? Nine Zulu queens (talk) 11:24, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially interesting readings[edit]

Article in Vanity Fair 2022-01-07, about the lengthy ongoing battles over the rights to the shipwreck: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/01/what-lies-beneath --highlunder (talk) 18:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous[edit]

", but Colombia refused to sign a 65%/35% share offer" - Who would have gotten the 65%? I assumed the government, but then why would SSA sue a 50/50 split? Kdammers (talk) 22:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]