Talk:Speaking Out movement

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Citation 81, Cornette vandalism[edit]

Jim Cornette has a reputation for having his wikipedia pages edited frequently in his favor, either by him or people close to him. He is documented as a Speaking Out offender. Citation 81 is this article where Cornette speaks with PWS: https://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/jim-cornette-denies-allegations-interesting-sex-life/

In this citation, Cornette defends and denies many accusations, while apparently inadvertently admitting to sharing nude photos of his wife with trainees, which is a sexually aggressive behavior in the workplace. He essentially unilaterally denies some accusations, while admitting to others.

On the Speaking Out Movement wiki page, this citation is cited as a reason that "These accusations were later proved false". I've attempted to correct this to show that the citation does not prove Cornette's innocence, and actually involves admitting guilt in the charges levied against him in the wiki page.

It appears that some source loyal to Cornette is repeatedly vandalizing the Speaking Out Movement wikipedia page to try to claim Cornette's innocence, and is abusing a citation to state that.

I hope a source more entrenched in wikipedia than me can look into this abuse and fix this vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.15.201.74 (talk) 22:26, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Men speaking out[edit]

Hi. I know the movement is focused on women. However, there are some men who also shared their experiences, like TJP, Keith Lee or Synn. Do you think we should include a small section about them? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:20, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, imo there should not be a distinction by gender. While most victims are women, the definition of the topic is not isolated to women. The men should be added to the categories they fit in to like the women. Not sure however if they fit in here if their experiences is not wrestling related like the private one from Lee. The article lists so far stories (no private ones from women either) related to other wrestlers, trainers and promotions. --Casra (talk) 23:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's true. Lee it's not related with wrestling. TJP said they were two female wrestlers. [1] Synn is already covered, I think [2] HHH Pedrigree (talk) 08:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Saieve Al Sabah[edit]

His publicly claimed reason for quitting MLW has already been proven false and the situation doesn't seem to fit any of our listed criteria for this page. So how should we handle it? Also, he's now been accused of rape, but he's no longer with MLW. So which section should we list that under? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KobashiJoe (talk • contribs) 16:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So your bright idea after repeatedly deleting cited content is to throw out an uncited claim that Saieve Al Sabah was accused of rape. Not too smart. TheNewMinistry (talk) 23:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crappy sources[edit]

I don't think we really need to discuss whether tabloid rags by the disgraced Trinity Mirror (Daily Record, Liverpool Echo) belong in an article about sexual assault allegations. On top of that, TMZ is a low-quality source, 411mania has limited reliability, Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows News is a free tabloid, and what in the holy hell is "Awfulannouncing.com"?

This page, which could be life-altering for the named individuals, demands reliable, top-flight sourcing. Dory Funk (talk) 01:56, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Súper Luchas' "list of fighters singled out for sexual harassment"[edit]

This has already been used as a reference. Should all the names within it be added to the article? Dory Funk (talk) 00:39, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]