Talk:Speck (cipher)

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I'm starting with a stub because there are insufficient secondary sources to write a full-blown article. I will expand this as the secondary sources become available. The source cited in the article is from the blog of a recognized expert in the field.LargeBlockCipher (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

I think it would be nice to talk about the fact that Google inserted Speck into the Linux 4.17 kernel code, and the controversy it created, mainly about the NSA's reputation and possible backdoor it might have inserted. Especially knowing the fact that Linus Torvalds has already been approached by the NSA to create a backdoor in the Linux kernel^[1]. It might be wise to create a "Controversy" section. Troupal(talk) Troupal (talk) 14:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ NSA's encryption algorithm in Linux kernel is creating unease in the community. in it's FOSS (https://itsfoss.com)

@Troupal: Sure, go ahead, as long as you can cover it neutrally and with good sources. I'm not sure itsfoss.com would be considered a very reliable source though. -- intgr [talk] 18:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree: another source may have mentioned it, maybe summarizing itsfoss; if so that is what you're looking for. Thanks, —Paleo Neonate – 22:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note that there are two separate stories here. The first is the rejection of Simon and Speck from ISO. For now, the best write-up of what happened in ISO is [1] with a few additional details in [2]. Atul Luykx and I were asked to contribute a book chapter about this which will hopefully be published in January.

The inclusion of Speck in the Linux kernel is an independent story. While a few news venues reported about this, none of them did their own research and they all took their information from the mailing list thread [3] (which is already linked inside the article), sometimes adding their opinions. Tomer A. 08:49, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See also what I wrote in talk:Simon (cipher). Tomer A. 09:01, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The book chapter is out: [4]. Tomer A. 08:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] NSA's encryption algorithm in Linux kernel is creating unease in the community. in it's FOSS (https://itsfoss.com)

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