Talk:St John Ambulance Cadets (England)

Please place new discussions at the bottom of the talk page.

This is the talk page for discussing St John Ambulance Cadets (England) and anything related to its purposes and tasks.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Shortcut

SJACA

Find medical sources: Source guidelines · PubMed · Cochrane · DOAJ · Gale · OpenMD · ScienceDirect · Springer · Trip · Wiley · TWL

This page is not a forum for general discussion about St John Ambulance Cadets (England). Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about St John Ambulance Cadets (England) at the Reference desk.

This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Medicine: Emergency Low‑importance

	Medicine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Medicine, which recommends that medicine-related articles follow the Manual of Style for medicine-related articles and that biomedical information in any article use high-quality medical sources. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine.MedicineWikipedia:WikiProject MedicineTemplate:WikiProject Medicinemedicine articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Emergency medicine and EMS task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

England Mid‑importance

	England portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject England, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EnglandWikipedia:WikiProject EnglandTemplate:WikiProject EnglandEngland-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

United Kingdom Low‑importance

	United Kingdom portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

London Low‑importance

	London portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject London, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of London on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LondonWikipedia:WikiProject LondonTemplate:WikiProject LondonLondon-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Edit request[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The request was not specific enough. You may consider leaving your comments on the Talk page or escalating significant issues to the conflict of interest noticeboard.

Most of the information on this article is now out of date. Needs to be updated with information from Youth Volunteering Policy Version 2.

http://member.sja.org.uk/downloads/contribute/Youth-Volunteering-Policy.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.218.89 (talk • contribs) 29 December 2012

Can you add a more specific comment explaining which parts are out of date? Are there any secondary sources that can help support a revision, not just a primary source? See WP:SOURCES - it'd be helpful to base this article on secondary reliable sources instead of primary sources. Dreamyshade (talk) 10:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The new SJA Cadet Programme[edit]

Starting from early 2014, there has been a new structure for cadets that are aged 14 or over. This involves new ranks replacing the 'Cadet Trainer' and 'Cadet Leader' with new ranks that include [I'm sorry I do not know the exact name of them but they go something like the following] 'Cadet Trainee First Aider' >[Following on to]>'Cadet First Aider'>[Following on to]>'Cadet Advanced First Aider' CAF is almost as qualified as an adult first aid qualification and [one that I can't remember] >[Following on to]> 'Cadet Peer Trainer'. There is some other information that I know that may be useful, but I have not put it down here.

Should I add this information to the page with blanks of the things that I do not know, or just not edit the page at all?

I have talked to the people on the Wikipedia-en-help IRC channel and I will not make any posts until I have found a reputable source to support the information and at the same time, I will be able to gain more knowledge about this subject. If anyone knows about this subject please post a link to it as a reply to this post. Thanks! Tedjam (talk) 19:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Members site[edit]

Many of the references link to the now shutdown Members site that was replaced with the SJA Connect site. I can not access the site, but I was wondering if the new site hs the old documents on it, or whether there is somewhere else that has the documents that theh public can access tedjam (talk) 11:09, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Considering this is all entirely cited to their website and, like you say, some of it is not publicly accessible, in my opinion it should be selectively merged to St John Ambulance (England and the Islands). By the looks of it this is simply the youth wing of St John Ambulance. It certainly doesn't warrant such a lengthy and detailed article. Sionk (talk) 12:32, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citations[edit]

This article is all over the place, the main problem is that there are hardly any citations. All of the citations go to SJA's own website and half of the links are dead. Does anyone have any actual citations? Berrely (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 April 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Move as there were no new responses for two weeks. (non-admin closure) — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 08:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

St John Ambulance Cadets in the UK → St John Ambulance Cadets in England. St John Ambulance has different organisations in Scotland, Wales and Ireland, and this article is clearly about the one in England. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 12:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. b uidhe 05:55, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Move to St John Ambulance Cadets (England). The current title is terrible. The proposed title doesn't just refer to cadets. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Apologies that's exactly what I meant! — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 07:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.