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According to the sources[edit]

I have removed some POV statements which were not present in the sources and replaced with the same terms used by the sources. I would like to invite you all to write statements which are already present in the sources and avoid personal research.--Agnello inferocito (talk) 10:38, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Potential sources[edit]

These are some sources that Montanabw had put on the talk page that got shifted to the archive. I think at least one of these might already be in the article, but wanted to bring them here anyway:

Plus, starting to list some here that I have found as I stumbled around the internet this morning:

The Position of the Stallion in the Equine Dominance Hierarchy of Feral and Domestic Ponies - 1982 Journal of Animal Science article

More to come. I plan to start working on the Reproductive anatomy and Gelding sections later today, if anyone else wants to start taking a stab at the other sections. Dana boomer (talk) 13:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Read Gelding before you edit that section here, don't need to do a lot on geldings on this side, IMHO. I'm also rather hesitant to use a 1982 article except where we can't find anything more recent; I'd keep if for backup. The Horse has a ton more articles, search on "stallion" and there will be another half-dozen relevant hits, many linked to the peer-reviewed studies. Montanabw^(talk) 07:48, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, what I did yesterday is pretty much all I'm planning to do in the Gelding section - just referencing and a bit of minor expansion it places where it directly concerned stallions. There is one place that I dropped a cn tag that I couldn't find a ref for. I know it's true, but I couldn't find it in even the horses-for-dummies books that I have. The 1982 source was just something I stumbled across while looking for something else. It might be fun to use to show that the research into stallion dominance goes back over 30 years, but I'm not fussed if it's used or not. The Horse has a ton of stuff, true - that was where I found most (all?) of my sources yesterday for the unsourced bits in the Gelding section. Dana boomer (talk) 13:08, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Henry VII[edit]

The term "stallion" dates from the era of Henry VII, who passed a number of laws relating to the breeding and export of horses in an attempt to improve the British stock, under which it was forbidden to allow uncastrated male horses to be turned out in fields or on the commons; they had to be "kept within bounds and tied in stalls." (The term "stallion" for an uncastrated male horse dates from this time; stallion = stalled one.)^[1]

This is not what the Oxford English Dictionary says. It says that the word derives from Old French estalon (modern French étalon), which is related to stalls and that the earliest mention in English is c 1305, long before Henry VII.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:35, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Wortley Axe, J (2008), The Horse – Its Treatment in Health And Disease, Hewlett Press, pp. 541–542, ISBN 978-1-4437-7540-3

[Wortley541-2-1] Wortley Axe, J (2008), The Horse – Its Treatment in Health And Disease, Hewlett Press, pp. 541–542, ISBN 978-1-4437-7540-3

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