Talk:Starčevo–Körös–Criș culture

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@Zoupan: I am not sure about your recent move. Starčevo–Körös may get more GBooks hits than Starčevo–Körös–Criş but that's beside the point, because they're referring to different things. Starčevo, Körös and Criş are three separate cultures. Starčevo–Körös refers to the grouping of Starčevo and Körös. Starčevo–Körös–Criş refers to the grouping of all three. You will also find the terms Körös–Criş and Starčevo–Criş in the literature, referring to the other possible groups. The subject of this page is the larger cultural grouping formed by all three, so to me it makes to keep it under the most inclusive title: Starčevo–Körös–Criş culture. – Joe (talk) 01:49, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that sources are not uniform. It would be good to add views (inline citations) of archaeologists on the matter of division/grouping.--Zoupan 02:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sigfried J. de Laet; Unesco (1994). History of Humanity: Prehistory and the beginnings of civilization. Taylor & Francis. pp. 530–. ISBN 978-92-3-102810-6. Balkano-Carpathian complex ... It also extends into southern Pannonia with the Koros group. This complex comprised the Starcevo culture, which is called Cris, or Starcevo-Cris, in Romania (not to be confused with the Koros group), and its local variants in the plain of Sofia ...
Albert J. Ammerman; Paolo Biagi (2003). The Widening Harvest: The Neolithic Transition in Europe : Looking Back, Looking Forward. Archaeological Institute of America. ISBN 978-1-931909-05-1. Starcevo and the Koros-Cris
Andrew Sherratt (1997). Economy and Society in Prehistoric Europe: Changing Perspectives. Edinburgh University Press. ISBN 978-0-7486-0646-7. Initial spread of farming into the Carpathian Basin in the Early Neolithic, showing the 'western stream' (Starcevo) and the 'eastern stream' (Koros-Cris).

I agree there's a lot of inconsistency in the sources, although many do use Starcevo-Koros-Cris [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]. That is why I would go for Starcevo-Koros-Cris, because it is the most inclusive term and therefore cuts across the inconsistency. I'm actually now wondering it it makes sense to maintain separate articles on each, since almost all authors agree that there are substantial similarities between the three, and we could probably do a better job of explaining the terminology if they were merged into one. In the mean time, I have restored the old, stable title pending further discussion. – Joe (talk) 15:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]