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Questionable Travel Time References In Article Head

In the opening paragraph of the article, it states:

"As space and time are relative, a person traveling through the Stargate may feel as though he or she is traveling for long periods of time while persons outside the Stargate would see instant travel. In one of the earlier episodes, Col. Jack O'Neill made a comment about it feeling like it took forever to travel through the wormhole."

I do not recall any of this being stated in the series. Additionally, that is the opposite of how relativistic time observation works (I.E. the person traveling should feel no or little time pass, while the observer would see more time pass), so the explanation for the conclusion is, at best, dubious. In which episode did Jack make that comment? We do have early comments about the trip taking something like 3-5 seconds, but later the trip is said to take fractions of a second. (No, I do not have episode references, which is why I won't put that in the article.) I don't recall any case of someone claiming it feels like a long time except possibly in a sarcastic or rhetorical context, and I'm not even certain of that.

Please either clarify or remove this unfounded statement (or 'found' it with some citation). If I'm wrong I'll happily admit it, but I would like to see some reference. Tacticus (talk) 01:58, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The series often suggested the opposite, where the travel time was instantaneous relative to the traveler. At one point, a character was “stuck” in the Stargate for an extended period of time, and when retrieved had no awareness of what happened. Any quip by Jack O’Neill about it taking forever was likely sarcastic, as were many of his comments. I just removed the sentence about travel time and replaced it with a comment about allowing near-instantaneous travel across vast distances. Alec (talk) 20:49, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Last Symbol of the dealing sequence is the origin ... implies there can be only 38 different origins to depart from ?

What address must be dialled to return to a planet other than Earth ? (Earth has it's symbol) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.4.130 (talk) 04:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Why is this a separate entry?

Why isn't this entry under the movie? Because 'device' Star Gate should also include the star-gate in 2001: A Space Odyssey , 1968. Not to mention the many occurrences in prose science fiction going back to the 1930s. aajacksoniv (talk) 02:16, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Definitely should, also as far as I can see the article describes the stargates as if they were really known to be in existence across the Milky Way and beyond, instead of focusing on it as a fictional concept and story device. 83.254.154.164 (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

I strongly agree as well. Putting aside the fact that this article is largely fan-cruft that dwells at-length on describing one aspect of a fictional universe in elaborate detail in a manner that is more appropriate to a fansite Wiki than a Wikipedia article, it also massively fails WP:Notability, having not a single independent secondary source supporting it for inclusion under Wikipedia policy. In fact, 60 of the 65 "references" for this page are just wikilinks to other Wikipedia articles for particular seasons and episodes of Stargate. Of the remaining references, not one qualifies for use in sourcing on Wikipedia, and most are links to news or interviews on fansites, most of which are not even up any longer. Perhaps some of the content can be salvaged by being drastically parsed-down and added to some of the other Stargate-related articles, but by and large Wikipedia is just not the appropriate place for this information. I really hope someone else will save me the trouble of filing the AfD, but there's little doubt this article will have to go, and frankly I am gobsmacked that it's been around for five years now, when it clearly fails notability guidelines. Snow talk 04:09, 29 November 2014 (UTC)