Talk:Status inconsistency

Great progress

This entry is really coming along. Seems like the references need some formatting help. Take a look at some properly formatted pages, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber#Further_reading I will try to make a couple of adjustments and additions to the article to help with moving forward in terms of content. but overall you are making great progress. --Htw3 18:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I made a couple of changes to try to demonstrate some ways that the current draft can be improved. I think there are organizational problems. I try to mention some below. --Htw3 19:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Theory and its Development: Try to shorten this section and make the sentences more direct. I point to weber at the start, lenskis work is good for the middle, but the last bit needs to recognize that much research has been done since lenski.

Replace this title: Three Main Components in Status Inconsistency with this: Weber's dimensions of stratification.

Models of Status inconsistency and Social mobility effects: Replace this title with something other than the journal article title.

Status Inconsistency in Task Situations: A Test of Four Status Processing. Examples of Status inconsistency. discuss actual research here would be better

Sociology Book

It is not clear to me what value this section contributes to the article.

@unsigned person, This section seems to be gone, now. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. Thin Smek) (talk) 13:39, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Notes

Good start guys, here's some suggestions:

• You should note that status inconcistency is most commonly inconsistency between social status and economic class. Your example of the teacher is excellent, but you should note that in a general sense status inconsistency often lies along the intersection of an individual's location in satus and class heirarchies. Inconsistency primarily arises when an individual is ranked high in one dimension of power, class, or status and ranked low on another one of the dimensions. The discontent it creates is often expressed as feelings of not being treated witht the respect one diserves or not receiving the amount of money one diserves to be paid.
• You could note that status inconsistency is an important challenge to Marx who felt that class was the sole dimension of stratification in any society. Weber's addition of status and power completley changes Marx's definition of class relations.
• To be clear, ownership of property is absolutely important. Weber, like Marx, sees the primary determinant of class as ownership of property. In other words, when it comes to class its all about the haves and the have-nots.
• You should note that one of the implications of status inconsistency is that social movements may develop which cross class lines. In Marxist theory this would simply not happen.
• Note that prestige is the measure of social honor which is basically what we refer to when we talk about status.
• You need to provide links or examples of the journal articles critical of status inconsistency.

Otherwise keep up the great work guys.

Velvet Llama 00:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Major shortening

I am not sure if this is the best solution.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

@Piotrus: I think that if done now, this edit would violate one of the three core content policies of Wikipedia, Wikipedia:No original research, because as well as removing a lot of content, this edit added a reference to a paper by "Riedesel, P. L." that wasn't there before, and was done by a Wikipedian called "Paul Riedesel". It's perhaps a pity he didn't explain or even mention this addition.

I'm not sure if the original research policy existed back then, though. At this point, the content removed seems to be mostly or fully non-existent, though preserved in the diff link posted above. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. Thin Smek) (talk) 14:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Minorities and status inconsistency (*former entry over at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascribed_status)

Ascribed statuses are determined by the dominant groups in society and as a result, minorities are often assigned lower statuses. Minority groups are forced to attempt to reconcile the conflicts that arise from the social expectations that are linked with their assigned statuses in society and their perceived view of themselves. In the face of the knowledge that individuals occupy more than one ascribed role at a time, it becomes evident that there may be some statuses in society’s multi-dimensional structure that do not comfortably coexist.

Consistency is defined as the degree to which an individual’s social rank positions that exist within important status hierarchies are at a comparable level. The greater mobility of class systems produces less status consistency. In Canada, for example, most university professors with advanced academic degrees enjoy high social prestige but earn only average salaries. Low status consistency means that classes are much harder to define than castes.

At the root of the problem of status inconsistency is the inability of individuals to reconcile the conflicting expectations. A woman from a racial minority group may not experience status inconsistency because as a woman and as a member of a minority group, she may be considered to be of a lower ascribed status. But, if this woman rejects the assigned roles that are associated with her status, she experiences status inconsistency.

To offer another example, a woman born into a wealthy family occupies both a high and a low ascribed status within the social structure: her inherited resources and social networks are advantageous but her role as a woman may be considered inferior. When a person holds a high rank on one status dimension and low rank on another, the expectations of the two are often at odds with one another.

The two general consequences that arise from the tension that exists between the differing expectations are frustration and uncertainty about how one should act, given how others believe they should behave, and their own perceived notions of their abilities and the course of action that they should take to achieve their goals. Biohistorian15 (talk) 11:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)