Talk:Stojan Vezenkov

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BPOV vandalism[edit]

Jingiby, do you wish to explain the recent BPOV edits you've been doing? Gurther (talk) 15:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jingiby, stop edit warring and discuss it in the talk page. Gurther (talk) 15:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jingiby, i do not appreciate your stuborness by giving out false warns to justify your POV. Gurther (talk) 15:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gurtner, can you clarify what this is about? Jingiby (talk) 15:33, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jingiby, almost no sources support your BPOV views that he was a "Macedonian Bulgarian" the only sources that support this theory are old, racist and outdated Bulgarian communist book, thus this claim falls under fringe views and if you do not provide a proper reason it will be reverted. Gurther (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gurther, it's good to calm the ball down. As far as I remember you used a racist book by North Macedonian author. What source do you want? Jingiby (talk) 15:44, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jingiby, and do you have any sources that support the claim that Gane was a racist? as for this i want a proper English academic source which supports the theory that he is Bulgarian, otherwise the BPOV fringe views will be removed. Gurther (talk) 15:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gurtner, it is about the racist and pseudoscientific treatise Ethnogenetic Differences between Macedonians and Bulgarians of Alexander Donski. Otherwise, in recent days I have noticed some inexplicable aggression in you. Falsification of sources, false tagging, deletion of credible sources, disruptive edits, etc. This cannot go on any longer. I have warned you several times already. Jingiby (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Now for the sources. For example here is a Russian encyclopedic dictionary from that time - Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary. Here is also a present-day English-language historical source - War and Society in East Central Europe: Insurrections wars and the eastern crisis in the 1870s by Béla K. Király, Gunther Erich Rothenberg · 1985, Brooklyn College Press. Jingiby (talk) 16:11, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jingiby, about Donevski, this is just WP:OR and your views only, if he really is racist then there should be atleast evidence to support it, for example my evidence when it comes to the fact that old Bulgarian communist books are racist are due to the policy and political instability done by Todor Zhivkov and his racist policy of "One Nation, One People" which comes to show that 1960s-1980s Bulgarian communist books are riddled with his philosophy, as a matter of fact some books still retain such views to this day, i also wanna note your blatant ignorance of WP:3RR, it states how doing three or more reverts is considered edit warring, yet you falsely warned me when i only did two reverts, such false warnings are unexcusable and only demostrate WP:NOTHERE behaviour, as for the sources Wikipedia is not a source, nor is it its sister sites, while the second book doesn't mention Stojan being Bulgarian, only that Bulgarian revolutionaries had a tie with some Albanian ones, which indicates WP:OR. Gurther (talk) 16:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gurther, this above is another mockery of yours. Jingiby (talk) 16:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jingiby, the only mockery i've noticed is a user who's been editing for 16 years doesn't properly understand 3RR yet. Gurther (talk) 16:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]