Talk:Sua Sulu'ape Paulo II

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new page[edit]

This new page replaces the previous page 'Suluape Paulo II' - same person, but I hadn't added the 'Sua' chief title in the article name. And i'm still figuring out if i can delete that other article. Teine Savaii (talk) 14:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added new detail and reordered the material on the new page.I also added glottal stops in the names Su'a etc.Some how the image on the page disappeared. Apologies for that. Osuhsiri (talk) 11:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tufuga ta tatau interpretation in the English language[edit]

Just noting here that the closest word in the English language which explains the word 'Tufuga ta tatau' is 'master tattooist.' This is not a 'peacock' hyperbole, rather, the word 'master tattooist' gives a clearer idea of the authority and expert knowledge and skill of Tufuga ta tatau in Samoa. Tufuga ta tatau are no ordinary tattooist, their skill and knowledge incorporates their mastering of this art (technique + cultural concepts) and the esteem they are held in the cultural tradition and custom of Samoa. There are many tattooists but very few in the tufuga rank. In translating these Samoan concepts into the English language in wikipedia, the translations incorporate tacit cultural meaning to provide a truer and correct explanation, rather than pure transliteration. This means it might not quite fit into wikipedia's style manual - tho' why that would be set in concrete when the word wikipedia itself, and the concept behind this online encyclopaedia, is an innovation itself. i.e. The founders of wikipedia have created a hybrid word, wiki is hawaiian - because no word in the English language existed for this idea. Hail to new ideas and the sharing of all human knowledge unfettered by the weaknesses in the 'real world.' Teine Savaii (talk) 12:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Slaying[edit]

I've added some details of the murder trial resulting from his death at the hands of his wife. This was a major media event in New Zealand, and deserves to be mentioned in the article.