Talk:Subdivisions of Congress Poland

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Map request[edit]

We need administrative maps to fill in the period 1844-1867, when the Kingdom had only 5 governorates. A map for the period 1867-1893 would also be useful.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  15:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Something along the lines of these [1]?

There are also a few real nice ones on PL.WP. I'll have to find them again. Can someone help translate the PL.WP entry for this article, they have a LOT more detail then the EN.WP article.

Ajh1492 (talk) 19:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good find on the maps, perhaps we should email the website owners and ask them for a permission to use the images under a free license? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree with split at 1867[edit]

I've reverted the split and redirecting of Vistula land to Privislinsky Krai. The rationale is a follows:

  • Privislinsky Krai is a fork of the Vistula land; the articles should be merged (name is open to discussion)
  • Privislinsky Krai is an article about a state; this article and the content that was split from it is part of the series of articles on administrative division of former Polish states
  • Vistula land was redirected to Privislinsky Krai, without any content being transfered, when in fact it is a more developed article
  • finally, it is disputable whether we can claim that Privislinsky Krai should be classified as a state; officially the Congress Poland was never replaced by it, and there was never anything like an "administrative division of Privislinsky Krai"

--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Reforms of 1867 were put into place by the Tsar to remove all traces of Poland. It was a response to the January Uprisings.

WP:PL refers to it as Kraj Przywiślański


Technically, "Congress Poland" in an informal name for the Kingdom of Poland.

  • Privislinsky Krai isn't a fork of Vistula land, it's an edit/consolidation of post-1867 information into a timeline driven format with a table so it makes more sense and is readable.
  • Privislinsky Krai isn't a state, it is a Subdivision and is using the proper Former Subdivision infobox.
  • All the relevant post-1867 information from Vistula land was moved into Privislinsky Krai, any pre-1867 information was moved into Congress Poland.
  • Privislinsky Krai isn't a state, it's a subdivision. Why can't a subdivision be further subdivided?

Ajh1492 (talk) 22:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First, as the name suggest, Privislinsky Krai is a fork of the Vistula land. Those articles should be merged, and I am at this point not saying which name is more correct, but both names refer to the same phenomena. Second: per WP:V, please provide sources, per WP:V, that clearly state that Congress Poland indeed was replaced in 1867 by Privislinsky Krai.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To centralize the discussion, please direct any replies to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Privislinsky_Krai.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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