Talk:Subtropical cyclone/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Suggestions:

  • "A subtropical cyclone is a weather system that has some characteristics of a tropical cyclone and some characteristics of an extratropical cyclone." — Reword; the "some characteristics of" part should not repeat itself. Done
  • "...as tropical cyclones or extratropical cyclones." — Same thing, it should be "...as tropical or extratropical cyclones." Done
  • "By 1972, the National Hurricane Center officially recognized this cyclone category." — Better switch to passive, such as "They were officialy recognized by the National Hurricane Center in 1972." Done
  • "Subtropical cyclones began to receive names off the official tropical cyclone list in the Atlantic Basin in 2002, and also receive names off the list of names across the southwest Indian ocean." — Off which list? If it's off the official list, then remove the redundant part ("also receive names off the list of names"), else explain. Done
  • "...lower than the tropical cyclone threshold by three degrees Celsius, or five degrees Fahrenheit, lying around 23 degrees Celsius." — This should be replaced by "3°C (5°F), lying around 23 °C (73 °F)", with links to °C and °F. Done
  • "...from 1968–1971." — This is grammatically incorrect. You should use either "in the period of 1968–1961" or "from 1968 to 1971" Done
  • "By gaining tropical characteristics, an extratropical low may transit into a subtropical depression/storm. A subtropical depression/storm may further gain tropical characteristics to become a pure tropical depression/storm..." — Slashes should not be used in the text per WP:SLASH. Done
  • "The maximum recorded wind speed for a subtropical storm is 33 m/s (119 km/h, 65 knots, or 74 mph), also the minimum for a hurricane." — Kilometers per hour are not typically used in meteorology in Europe, so they shouldn't appear here.
Km/h should as its part of WPTC policy for science articles. Jason Rees (talk) 21:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Those with winds below 18 m/s, 65 km/h, 35 knots, or 39 mph..." — Same as above.
  • I've found numerous appearances of "metre" and "kilometre" in this American English article, which are a consequence of using {{convert}}. You should append |sp=us to the convert code to change this to "meter" and "kilometer" Done
  • "49 kilometers (30 mi)" and "161 kilometers (100 mi)" — Such levels of exactness for converting from so vague numbers are incorrect. I recommend changing to 50 km and 160 or 150 km, respectively. Done
  • "...and briefly in 1972 this type of subtropical cyclone was referred to as a 'neutercane'." — The "briefly in 1972" part should go somewhere else and be re-worded. Done
  • "Kona is a Hawaiian term for leeward..." — should be changed to "Kona is a Hawaiian term for leeward..." See use–mention distinction. Done
  • Delink November 4 in the caption of the last image Done
  • There is a red link in the "See also" section. I don't know if it's a misspelling or a link to a deleted article or something else, but it should be either blue or not there. Done
  • There are many duplicate links, especially for terms like wind or cyclone. The usual practice is to only link once or twice to the same page from the article prose (not counting image captions, infoboxes, etc.). This is a fairly short article, so I don't expect readers to forget the meaning of new words before they reach the end of the article. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)  Done[reply]
I have made most of the changes you recommended. I cannot in good faith remove the metric units (km/h) from this article, as the units are used internationally (at least Australia, Hong Kong, and Mexico if nowhere else). Jason is right, this is part of the tropical cyclone wikiproject instructions, but it just makes good sense. Otherwise, the other changes should be made. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:20, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand as I often see km/h being used when talking about hurricane wind speeds, although AFAIK it has little use in meteorology outside that area of interest, at least in Europe w/o England. As I'm satisfied with the article right now, I'm going to pass it. Admiral Norton (talk) 14:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]