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Swedish military designations changed in october 1964 to capital letters only. That goes for everything, not only aircraft but engines, radar, engines and more. Hence, the Hkp 4 (wich is not at all the same as a CH-46 by the way, but kind of similar) became HKP 4, Tp 79 became TP 79, Sk 50 became..... you guessed it, SK 50 and so on. Designations are also always written with a space before the number. There are no exeptions since 1926 (or before)! This has already been discussed and explained on the Swedish Wikipedia. In order to not mix and confuse to much all aircraft that came into service before 1964 have consecvently been written as when they entered service. The only survivor from that era today is the HKP 4, therefor written here as Hkp 4. Don't bother refering to Swedish Armed Forces website where sometimes (quite often acctually) designations are misspelled as well. It's written by civilian webmasters with no clue!--Towpilot (talk) 23:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a misconception caused by a computer-systems introduced in the air force in the 1960's. This system could only handle capital letters. Hence, many people believe that all designations should be in capital case.
Designations/acronyms based on one word is written with the first letter in upper-case and the following in lower-case (example: Skolflygplan = Sk, Helikopter = Hkp). Designations/acronyms based on more than one word are simply concatenated, mostly resulting in all upper-case designations (example: Spaning-Foto = SF, Spaning-Hav = SH, Jakt-Attack-Spaning = JAS).
This is common practice not only in the Air Force or to aircraft, but to all material in the Armed Forces. 130.237.216.122 (talk) 07:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gripen of no return[edit]

The info in this article is incorrect. The Gripens "leased" to Hungary will never return to swedish posession. The deal is a sale in anything but name.

Those planes are unique JAS-39EBS versions, meaning A/B series used wings were mated to newly built fuselages, which are longer than standard and are equipped with in-flight refuel probes. These one-off Gripens would not fit in the swedish arsenal, so there would be no sense in reclaiming them. Hungarian Air Force Gripens are meant to serve Hungary until about 2040, they will be purchased outright in 2017 by paying the residual value to the swedish. 91.83.19.38 (talk) 16:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BASE 90[edit]

I've started the article (it's just a copy and paste from a forum at the moment) and would really like some help by an expert, but anyone is welcome to work on it at User:Brutaldeluxe/BASE 90. Brutal Deluxe (talk) 11:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Underground hangar or Highway strip might be suitable locations for this info (assuming it's accurate and not copyright). Do you have citations for any of it ? I'm happy to help trimming, copyediting and wikilinking - or, if you don't mind, just copying a few bits. DexDor (talk) 21:57, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I gave that up after realising that there simply isn't enough material in English on the web, that although I understand the occasional Swedish word (vad fan!), I don't know enough of it to trawl Swedish sites, and that there isn't anyone Swedish who seems interested in collaborating. Thanks for expressing interest, though. Egg carton (talk) 19:59, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bas_90 You need help translating, just let me know. /BP 78.70.77.35 (talk) 08:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HKP 14 in active?[edit]

Is the Hkp 14 (NHI NH90) relly in active service with the Swedish airforce? As far as I know the orders is running late and it will take years before the first are deliverd.Walle83 (talk) 19:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saab 105[edit]

Can someone give a source to the number of active Saab 105 aircrafts? I doubt very much that Swedens airforce has that kind of high number in service (80). Walle83 (talk) 01:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other source[edit]

Wonder which source is considerd most correctly as forsvarsmakten.se provides other numbers and types of aircrafts then what milaviapress.com is? --> Halmstad, Charla to moi 05:19, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

www.forsvarsmakten.se appears to be an official site so is a more reliable source then milaviapress which is created by enthusiasts. MilborneOne (talk) 11:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thought so to. --> Halmstad, Charla to moi 23:27, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Changes regarding airplanes used and numbers[edit]

To begin with the primary source that was used Orbat, could not be see as full reliable since its fan made site that relies on other people to add their observations, while Forsvarsmakten.se is a site runned by the Swedish armed forces. Regarding the removal of Saab 105 (SK 60) and Saab 32 Lansen both have been removed from service acording to Forsvarsmakten.se, SK 60 and Saab 32 Lansen, the 32 Lansen is flew by the air force for another organisation but not used by them. SAGEM Sperwer was replaced by the AAI RQ-7 Shadow on 1 august 2011 Nyteknik.se Forsvarsmakten.se. --> Halmstad, Charla to moi 06:12, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

The Saab 105 (Sk60) is very much in service with the Swedish Air force, read this from September 2011 http://blogg.forsvarsmakten.se/flygvapenpilot/. The plane is not used in warplanning anymore but it will remain the main basic trainer for years to come.http://www.fmv.se/upload/Bilder%20och%20dokument/Publikationer/Informationsmaterial/PROTEC/Protec_nr1_09.pdf. Yes the Sperwer has been replaced, I added sources for this a while ago.Walle83 (talk) 06:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So here we go. The Sk60 is still used by the Air force as jet trainers and owned by the Swedish gouvernment but since 2009 Saab is responsible for keeping them in flying condition, not the Swedish FMV. The contract with Saab is for 9 years (2009-2018). http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/page.aspx?id=4818 http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/page.aspx?id=4539 http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/page.aspx?id=5306 Walle83 (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the SAAB 340 numbers need revising, anyone with fresh numbers? Arkaska (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The latest Flight International World Air Forces Review 2013 say 2 x 340 AEW and 1 x 340 SAR. MilborneOne (talk) 20:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just read up a bit. Sweden have 2 TP 100C for transport 1 TP 100A for Open Skies and 2 340 (don't know designation) for AEW. They used to have 6 for AEW but sold 4 of them. Anyone who can edit the article? I don't know how to do it... Arkaska (talk) 21:57, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge with Future of Swedish Air Force[edit]

This information can readily be merged into the future section of the main page. RegistryKey(RegEdit) 21:16, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Structure of the Swedish Armed Forces in 1989[edit]

I created the article Structure of the Swedish Armed Forces in 1989, which contains a complete overview of the Swedish Armed Forces in 1989. The information comes from Arméhandboks of the army, from the Swedish wiki, and from government defense bills. As far as I can tell army and air force are complete and 100% correct. As for the navy: all in 1989 commissioned ships are listed, but some flotillas and divisions are missing. The coastal artillery is nearly complete, although there are some of the Spärrbataljon and Rörliga Spärrbataljon missing. Also missing for all three services are some of the schools. The Home Guard is missing as I could not find info on the ~85 battalions the Home Guard would field. Also missing are the designations/numbers/locations of the independent artillery, engineer, signal, air defense, etc. battalions that would be activated in war (except for the 3x Bandkanon 1 battalions of Milo ÖN). Even though these parts are missing, this is the most comprehensive/detailed/full listing of Swedish forces in 1989 ever.

However: if you have some more information, especially about the above mentioned stuff that is missing, please feel free to add this information to the article, or leave a message with the info on my talk page. Thank you, noclador (talk) 17:39, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Aircraft Inventory source[edit]

Just to let other editor knows, I have updated Swedish Air Force inventory page based on data on FlightGlobal's World Air Forces (WAF) 2020 and Swedish Air Force (SAF) page. Most of the data are aligned except for: 1) SAF page didnt mention number of JAS-39 and Saab 105, so i used WAF data. 2) WAF 2020 didnt mention any helicopter, so i used SAF data. 3) Saab 340 transport quantity-> WAF2020: 1 and SAF: 2, i used SAF data. Cheers. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:43, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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