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use soap and any thing to keep your hands clean keep hands away from face —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.142.50.101 (talk) 13:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

this flu is bad!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.26.244 (talk) 00:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

this flu is horrible i had it 3 times!!! if you get it, wash your hands a lot so you dont infect your family members!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.72.214 (talk) 03:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Swine Flu v. regular flu

I kind of see this as weighted towards the mass hysteria because it doesn't compare influenza, the seasonal death toll to this one. It just spouts out numbers, uses italics, and goes on how this virus is different from all other viruses. But from what I can tell, regular flu kills more people in a year than this one, and looking at the numbers, it seems to buy into the media prejudice of trying to create mass panic in people. Can't this be weighted properly and show comparison numbers to the regular seasonal flu?--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 18:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Accurate estimates for cases and deaths from this pandemic (from swine-origin pandemic H1N1/09 [the 1918 pandemic was also H1N1, so the "09" is needed to distinguish it]) do not yet exist. By sometime next year we will have numbers that can be compared to existing accurate estimates for seasonal flu. The lab confirmed cases and deaths are only useful for tracking spread and mutations, not numbers of cases and deaths. WAS 4.250 (talk) 18:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Very mild symtoms

It is necessary to say that the symtoms are very mild, the swine flu may be dangerous just for people with severe diseases. Swine flu vaccines are more dangerous than H1N1 virus. --Testosterone vs diabetes (talk) 08:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


Is thier any way i can get a doctor to weigh your patients who are dying from swine flu. I believe that your patients may be suffering from blood loss do to high temperature during fever. essentialy what may be occuring is that when a patient has a fever the high temperature evaporates the water content in the blood. Essentialy this registers as blood loss, wich is of course fatal. Your patients who are dying should be loosing weight in the range of what 3 quarts (or pints cant remember wich) or pints of blood weigh.


You can also help prove this by simply boiling a vial of blood for an hour or so, you should see the amount of blood decreases as it evaporates at temperatures of 100 degrees (idealy 101+).

also fever can be a bad thing because it evaporates and causes food supply to become gaseous wich is essential to humans surviving as well as if the patient is vomiting alot. Blood transfusions may help your patients, this needs to be seen as a poision.


secondly im inclined to agree the reason the body is reacting with fever to viral outbreaks is it registers the increase size of virus as an increase in blood supply, wich makes the heart pump harder/faster and gives irregular heartrate. the same thing occurs in obese and overweight people.

Just to show vaccines are not the way of dealing with this,I invite you to increase the dosage of the vaccine to an animal test subject (hopefully something non harmfull/mild symptoms). You should see that the animal 9 times out of 10 (probably 10 out of 10 times) will start showing symptoms, this is because its the amount of virus contaminate in the blood not the virus being in the blood that is responsible for symptoms. this shows that the symptoms are occuring due to the amount of viral contaminate in the blood supply, thiers simply not enough virus to affect the heart, causing it to pump faster then slower (irregularly). heartrate helps regulate body temperature, fast heartrate=increased activity, slow=sleep/loss of consciousness/reduced activity.

Symptoms such as vomiting, runny eyes, etc. occur simply because the virus grows in the body and the body tries to get rid of it. you may have to do a blood dump and transfusion, you may have to warm the blood and monitor the patients heartrate and bodytemperature making sure the patient does not go into anapalactic shock do to blood being cold.

I believe viral contaminates need to be treated as a poision, the reason some people dont get sick using some vaccines is simply thier is not enough of the disease in the vaccine to get them sick. its too much hearsay and opinion without legitimate science, much like early doctors throwing every pill treatment possible (including heroin etc) during the early stages of medical science.

I do not reccommend you test subject humans with any of this, for legal purposes i emplore doctors to invest in veternarian medicine with the willfull purpose of healing animals, alot can be learned by legitimately treating animals instead of doing asinine guessing on humans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.230.129 (talk) 20:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

1988 Zoonosis

I don't understand why the line "76% of 25 swine exhibitors..." uses a percentage. Surely it would be less confusing to say "19 out of 25 swine exhibitors..." --Jonjammin (talk) 10:01, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

You're quite right. I've rewritten this section. Tim Vickers (talk) 17:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Are Mexicans not humans?

When reading the section on the 2009 outbreak in humans, I expected it to relate to the firstly reported outbreak in Mexico and then how it spread to the USA and elsewhere. But to my surprise the outbreak in Mexico is only mentioned in a link. Perhaps the section was written by an American who forgot that it was first of all (at least apparently) a Mexican influenza? Harald88 (talk) 19:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

The first confirmed case was in California, but most cases did occur in Mexico. This is probably failing to distinguish between the initial identification, in the US, and the majority of cases, in Mexico. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Swine flu in Armenia

This week 5 people in Armenia are suspected of being infected. If confirmed by London laboratory, they will be first people in Armenia to be infected. Would you write about it? Gevorg89 (talk) 16:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Link to NHS

Link to NHS website is not pointing to the exact location. It should be point to http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pandemic-flu/Pages/Introduction.aspx. The link text is as follows, "Official swine flu advice and latest information from the UK National Health Service" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syed nhs (talk • contribs) 10:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

"swine flu" vaccine safety similar to seasonal vaccine

"swine flu" vaccine safety similar to seasonal vaccine

A review has concluded that the 2009 H1N1 ("swine flu") vaccine has a safety profile similar to that of seasonal vaccine.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.0.102 (talk) 21:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

We users can't improve the main page if it's locked.

Just saying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.0.102 (talk) 21:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

If article is locked, discussion should at least be broken out by sections

So that when it is unlocked, the suggested improvements can more easily be laid in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.0.102 (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Introduction

Swine influenza (also called swine flu, hog flu, pig flu and sometimes, the swine) is an infection by any one of several types of swine influenza virus. Swine influenza virus (SIV) is any strain of the influenza family of viruses that is endemic in pigs.

1918 pandemic in humans

The 1918 flu pandemic in humans was associated with H1N1 and influenza appearing in pigs;this may reflect a zoonosis either from swine to humans, or from humans to swine. Although it is not certain in which direction the virus was transferred, some evidence suggests that, in this case, pigs caught the disease from humans.

For instance, swine influenza was only noted as a new disease of pigs in 1918, after the first large outbreaks of influenza amongst people.Although a recent phylogenetic analysis of more recent strains of influenza in humans, birds, and swine suggests that the 1918 outbreak in humans followed a reassortment event within a mammal,the exact origin of the 1918 strain remains elusive.It is estimated that anywhere from 50 to 100 million people were killed worldwide.

Symptoms

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in humans the symptoms of the 2009 "swine flu" H1N1 virus are similar to those of influenza and of influenza-like illness in general. Symptoms include fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. The 2009 outbreak has shown an increased percentage of patients reporting diarrhea and vomiting.The 2009 H1N1 virus is not zoonotic swine flu, as it is not transmitted from pigs to humans, but from person to person.

The most common cause of death is respiratory failure. Other causes of death are pneumonia (leading to sepsis), high fever (leading to neurological problems), dehydration (from excessive vomiting and diarrhea) and electrolyte imbalance. Fatalities are more likely in young children and the elderly.

Treatment

n the U.S., on April 27, 2009, the FDA issued Emergency Use Authorizations to make available Relenza and Tamiflu antiviral drugs to treat the swine influenza virus in cases for which they are currently unapproved. The agency issued these EUAs to allow treatment of patients younger than the current approval allows and to allow the widespread distribution of the drugs, including by non-licensed volunteers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.8.137 (talk) 15:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


Bias

This article contains too much about the US and not so much about Mexico and other countries such as the UK, China, ect, what ever happened to keeping Wikipedia as a overall fair non-Biased site for learning?Davido488 (talk) 14:57, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Protection

I've seen several to-ings and fro-ings via edit summaries over the last few days, and little attempt to discuss this issue of a "possible fraud" here. This is unacceptable. Bearing in mind WP:BURDEN, and other guidelines, I've fully protected the article for a week in what appears to me to be the consensus version until this is thrashed out here or elsewhere. Rodhullandemu 01:06, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It is all fully sourced and comes from a reliable source. I don't know why you're so scared of the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TruthSeekerT4C (talk • contribs) 01:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

This article is about the viral infection, not about any single outbreak. The section dealing with the 2009-10 outbreak contains three paragraphs which summarise the more detailed article on the subject. To include a minority viewpoint for this outbreak is undue weight.-gadfium 06:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Protection template

{{editprotected}} Please replace the existing protection template with: 

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Note that the small parameter is contraindicated. --Bsherr (talk) 22:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Done.--Commander Keane (talk) 04:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

"haemophilus suis"

Nothing on "haemophilus suis" in the article !? hadn't Shope established in 1930-31 that it was the co-infection ( virus+this bacteria) that lead to the illness in its severe form [I mean in pigs] . The article just states "Because much of the illness and death associated with swine flu involves secondary infection by other pathogens, control strategies that rely on vaccination may be insufficient." On an historical as well- perhaps - as on a practical point of view this question should be developped Trente7cinq (talk) 12:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

2014-15 Swine flu out break in India

More than 800 fatalities and 15000 infections. This is an ongoing epidemic and must feature. Ref- http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-31617485 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.46.51 (talk) 17:33, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Recent outbreak of swine flu

More than 700 people died in India due to swine flu . Innepal it has indicated its outbreak hope less people will lose their life. Sir Alok (talk) 13:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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  1. ^ Review Shows Safety of H1N1 Vaccine, Officials Say "No substantial differences between H1N1 and seasonal influenza vaccines were noted in the proportion or types of serious adverse events reported." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/health/05flu.html?ref=health
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