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Editing Complete. Please comment. TechOutsider (talk) 02:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)TechOutsider[reply]

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The features section on this needs "slows down your computer to be unworkable" and "doesn't actually stop malware" added. What a useless turd of a program. Jtrainor (talk) 22:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that you raise an interesting point, Jtrainor, though I'm not sure how one would find reliable sources that neutrally document drawbacks to using the software. It might be interesting to look at this issue from the user's perspective, though it might be difficult to do so without turning the article into a user's manual. Maybe a short pros-and-cons section? I'd hate to have that turn into a battle-of-the-experts, though. TreacherousWays (talk) 14:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unlinked Abbreviations[edit]

The abbreviations IDS and IPS in the paragraph "Intrusion prevention" should be linked to the corresponding (explaining) articles.

Page Deletion[edit]

It seems the page contains 90% of link to their own product websites. It needs to deleted since it violate the wikipeida policy for the long time. Most of the admin here will know very well that this web page is completely used for promotional activities. I would like to initiate deletion request for this page to through this kind of promotional content out of wiki. (Aicte.david (talk) 07:22, 18 October 2016 (UTC))[reply]

I've applied deletion request for McAfee_Endpoint_Protection wiki page & it's been removed recently, this particular page also have the same promotional aspects. So i am requesting for deletion. I believe that this deletion request is valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aicte.david (talk • contribs) 09:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Draft[edit]

I am affiliated with Symantec. The current article is a good start, but doesn't have many independent secondary sources and a lot of the information is a long list of releases or operating systems. I've put together a draft at Symantec Endpoint Protection/Draft as a proposed replacement that I think would bring the article up to the GA quality level and follow Wikipedia's prose-style format. In compliance with WP:COI, I would like to request a disinterested editor take a look and objectively consider whether the draft is an improvement, provide any feedback, etc. CorporateM (Talk) 17:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've copy-edited and deployed the draft. —Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 09:49, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Symantec Endpoint Protection/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 10:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig finds some insufficiently paraphrased text; see here.

I think mousecork.com copied from Wikipedia, rather than the other way around. I've never seen mousecork before, so I couldn't have copied from it. CorporateM (Talk) 13:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Endpoint Protection also includes new features: "new" isn't wrong, since these features were new to the version discussed, but it's a bit confusing since this is over ten years ago. How about "The first released version also included features not in the earlier products, such as the ability to block..."?

Done I just changed it to "introduced" (past tense) to make it more clear the features were new at the time CorporateM (Talk) 13:27, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The disk footprints reported in the source are "nearly 100 Mb", not "100 Mb", and a projected 21 Mb; we can't report the latter as 20 Mb and it was just a projection.

Done Modified it to "almost" and "projected 21" CorporateM (Talk) 13:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion of version 12 says it was released in February 2011, but the source says that was just an announcement, and that release was not expected until the summer. Statements from that source should be qualified with "expected to" or something similar.

Done "released" -> "announced" CorporateM (Talk) 13:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Version 14 is the only currently-supported release: should be qualified with an "As of".

Done CorporateM (Talk) 13:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a great idea to have a 2008 source (footnote 11) discussing version 11 to describe the current features. I understand that the feature set is pretty stable, but products do change and we ought to source this sort of thing from something more current if possible. Can you find something more recent?

I'll have to circle back on this a bit later in the week. CorporateM (Talk) 13:45, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It uses aggregate information from users to identify malicious software: I couldn't see support for this in the given source; can you point me at the relevant text?

It's from the following text: "Like a true next-generation product, this one leverages machine learning, an extensive cloud system with a huge number of telemetry points around the world. In fact, the vendor claims that this telemetry network is the largest civilian network of its type in the world. Nonetheless, 175 million endpoints and 57 million attack sensors in 175 countries is a pretty healthy telemetry net." I presumed the 175 million endpoints it refers to is referring to users of the software. CorporateM (Talk) 13:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Probably best to put an "As of" on the 175 million user comment too.

Done CorporateM (Talk) 13:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The changes so far look good; let me know when you address the one remaining issue, re footnote 11. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:07, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@@Mike Christie:

Done It was easier than I thought as a recent TechTarget article was an adequate replacement for each reference. CorporateM (Talk) 14:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

End of Life[edit]

I did not see any mention here of the End of Life of Symantec Endpoint Protection, and its replacement by Symantec Endpoint Security.[1]— Wdfarmer (talk) 02:01, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]