Talk:Symphony No. 93 (Haydn)

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Bassoon at the end of the second movement[edit]

The bassoon at the end of the second movement is clearly a "Haydn joke" and one of the better ones at that. At the point when the music had been getting more and more "pretty", the bassoon simply sounds very "flatulent". The flatulence is actually played up memorably in some recordings (e.g. Szell/Sony). Steinberg says "Haydn points out rudely - very rudely - that there is such a thing as being too dreamy." Its difficult to mention a joke of this nature without sounding "unencylopedic" and the phrase getting "fixed" by someone who doesn't want a great work of Haydn somehow trivialized as some sort of farce. So, I'll leave this on the discussion page for now. When there is more analysis of the full work then this comic detail might be better explained. At the moment, its the only thing mentioned about the music. DavidRF 01:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"In the fourth movement, the oboe quotes "Viva la libertà" from Mozart's Don Giovanni"[edit]

That oboe melody in the 4th movement does not sound anything like "Viva la libertà" at all. Can someone please verify whether the above statement is true or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.184.193 (talk) 09:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]