Talk:TGIF (TV programming block)

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This page is missing The Muppet shows a few other tv shows that where quickly canned

Okay, Mr. Unsigned Statement, the deal with the grids is those are based on the official beginning of the season stuff kept in books like TV Guide's Guide to TV or something (some big honking book that has like every Fall and New Year Prime Time Grid since the Jackie Gleason days). That's where the info comes from. If the show aired as part of the official line-up at some time, in would be down in the shows listed in the links at the bottom of the page.

Now, I do recall the Muppets hosting TGIF, but I recall their show was on Saturdays and a few times on Sunday and Monday, depending on what was happening that week.

Coffee5binky (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Precise Conceivement

Does anyone know precisely when the TGIF monicker started? All that's listed is that it was around the 1988-'89 seasons. I would think someone would know the specific year and possibly the exact month. Cale 01:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Mr Belvedere?

Is this verified? I don't remember this show being part of the lineup, and I was pretty obsessed with TGIF.

Okay, Mr. Unsigned Statement, the show was on TGIF's first season. That season had a mouse and clock. I remember that season well, because my step-dad was watching the show with me and I got into Mr. Belvedere really badly and pissed my pants during the episode. That was the first episode of that season. And I kept asking when the mouse cartoon would be back. My step-dad is the kind of guy who reads the whole TV Guide the day it comes out and highlights what we're going to watching and when.

Coffee5binky (talk) 15:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, this show was in the FIRST season of TGIF, and it did NOT debut in 1989! Someone posted a video on youtube as the very first TGIF, from October, 1989, but this is obviously NOT the first, because in the first, Larry said they were debuting TGIF, to which Balkai replied "Two Goats in Fresnof" or some word close, only to be corrected by Larry as "Thank Goodness it's Funny". The true first TGIF debuted in 1988, NOT 1989! Belvedere was moved to make room for Family Matters, in the SECOND season of TGIF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.11.159.133 (talk) 03:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

TGIF Initials

I remember that whenever the initials TGIF were stated in longform on ABC, it was as "Thank Goodness It's Friday." The fact that "thank goodness" is in the lyrics of the original theme would seem to lend credence to this. So should this be noted in the article? The article currently says "The slogan comes from the initials of the popular phrase Thank God It's Friday." 67.170.166.3 23:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The phrase comes from Thank God It's Friday, but ABC was owned by a Jewish man (Leonard Goldensen, I think) at the time, and he didn't think it was appropriate to use the Lord's Name in vain. While I don't have a citation for this, I have heard this from Sam Donaldson back when I was a teen. (Don't ask, some school thing where we get to ask Sam one question for something whatever. So I asked him that instead of political question like everybody else.) Other than that, it's pure speculation. But yes, ABC's TGIF meant Thank Goodness It's Funny. Anyways, the shows all have a strong (I mean STRONG) Rightest-Conservative Judaeo-Christian slant. I actually miss it, as I've nothing to watch, sitcom-wise, with children. (Okay, I let them watch 30 Rock, but I don't think they get the jokes.) Coffee5binky (talk) 15:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

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Meaning of TGIF

Would it not be useful to place a definition/meaning of what TGIF stands for in the introductory paragraph? I was reading another article and Wiki-ed TGIF and it wasn't till I got halfway down the 'History' section that I saw what it meant. I'm just proposing/asking anyway, and if someone had a definitive link stating that it means 'Thank goodness it's Friday' that'd be great. Londonsista (talk) 10:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Gah, I had a total blonde moment there, it's already in the intro...I blame the lack of sleep ;) Londonsista (talk) 10:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Based Show Plots

Please remove this or move it to the proper place if I am incorrect, because it has been so long since the original TGIF, but I seem to remember that during the years of the original there was a big hurricane and a number of the shows that aired had special episodes made where the characters were dealing with the very same hurricane. As I said, I may be confused over the years at which this happened and, for that matter, may be completely wrong about it being TGIF shows specifically, but I do remember a number of back to back sitcoms adding the hurricane to their plots. -Rob, 8:03, 23 December 2008 (EST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.227.131.87 (talk)

No, it can't be TGIF for what I'm about to list for a few shows:

• Perfect Strangers, Family Matters are in Chicago. Maybe they can get snowspouts, but I doubt a hurricane can survive the trip overland to the Great Lakes.

• Boy Meets World's only natural disasters, other than snow or rain, was teen angst.

• Dinosaurs. C'mon!

• Hangin' with Mr. Cooper took place in Oakland, CA.

• Mr. Belvedere took place in Pittsburgh.

• Going Places took place in Los Angeles.

• Full House took place in San Francisco. Had an earthquake episode. That's it.

• Step by Step took place in Wisconsin somewhere.

• Growing Pains and Just the 10 of Us took place in New York, I think. I don't know. I hate Growing Pains and don't remember where 10 took place.

• Sabrina didn't deal with disasters of the serious sort, just whatever Sabrina, her AILFs* and her cat would cause to solve her teen angst.

However, maybe it's CBS sitcoms that you could be thinking of, like Major Dad that took place I think in Florida or something. I don't know. Can't help you. It sounds familiar, but it's not TGIF shows.

• AILF stands for Aunts I;d Like to Fuck, in case nobody got that. Pronunciation is like in beer's ale ending with an F sound.

Coffee5binky (talk) 15:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

AILFs? Apple8800 (talk) 14:14, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

2012 return?

I read somewhere that TGIF is coming back in 2012. Was this a short-lived rumor? If so, ABC will have a night block on Wednesdays, like that they been having on Wednesdays; since 2005, still? Sorry for this, I just read it here: http://moviecarpet.com/2011/01/27/abc-possibly-bringing-back-tgif-comedy-block-yes-please/ I just wanted to input my two-cents about the new block if they have one in the future.... panicpack121 (UTC) 4:39, 17 August 2011

I read the same thing somewhere. I'm not sure what ABC is up to, as Disney is on a buying spree right now. Rumor, and nothing more, is Clone Wars moving to launch either a new Saturday Morning Cartoons bloc, or a new TGIF bloc, but again, that's just rumors. As in a friend of mine told me so during a phone conversation, and he happens to work at KABC. That's not proof, that's not citation. It's just rumor. Also IP logs (each digital pay-TV box has an independent IP address) is reporting good ratings (contradicting the antique Nielsen system) for Fridays and Saturdays. Who's watching, beats me, but if Disney was serious about bringing TGIF back, what would be the shows? Anyways, I read the TGIF news, if I recall, at TV Tropes & Idioms forum, or another like-minded forum. Hardly credible. 70.180.188.238 (talk) 12:26, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

It is planned, as long as Last Man Standing and Malibu Country receive good ratings. If they do, the block will be extended back to 2 hours, and again on a FRIDAY night 4 high rated comedies, similar to 1988. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.148.226.250 (talk) 00:32, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

20/20

Has 20/20 ever actually been considered part of the TGIF block? I don't think so. The article has no references at all, not even for the news just announced TODAY. Theoldsparkle (talk) 02:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion

Per the proposed deletion policy, "You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to deletion for any reason. Although not required, you are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, do not replace it." There is no requirement to explain why the flag was removed, anyone can remove it, and once removed the flag should not be replaced.

If I am reading the history of the page correctly, I see that the flag has been removed twice already. I am removing the flag for the third time. The article has a significant problem in that it lacks references. However, given that multiple editors have removed the flag, it does not qualify for the proposed deletion process as I understand it. Thanks - James Cage (talk) 03:23, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

• ACCEPTED. You're welcome. But... the real problem is in more than just the lack of references, you know. This article is just full of large amounts of cruft, trivia, original research, and other material that does not belong in a Wikipedia article. If this article does not qualify for the proposed deletion process, the real question behind this article is now this: Are there any reliable publications or other materials that verify the existence of this programming block? And of the information present in the article at this time, what should NOT be treated as encyclopedic? —Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), Sunday, January 19, 2014, 01:17 U.T.C.

Hey Seth - Sorry if my tone wasn't constructive in the above comment. Believe me, I understand how it feels to see something that seems totally inappropriate for Wikipedia, and how frustrating that can be. Let's break this discussion into two topics:

PROCESS: You probably know more about Wikipedia than I do, but in case someone else reads this - PROD doesn't apply here, but there are other ways to delete articles, such as raising the article at Articles for deletion. There are other alternatives, such as marking the inappropriate material with citation needed flags, both to alert the reader and to direct other editors to specific material that needs to be referenced or removed.

CONTENT: I don't generally contribute to entertainment articles (although, like everyone else, I read a great many of them), so I don't have a lot of experience in notability in this area. I googled "ABC TGIF" - there are >600,000 hits, and clearly some are relevant. I also did a search of some periodicals that are not available on Google, using a research database through my local public library, and I found this: ABC Reinventing 'TGIF'. By: Ryan, Leslie, Greppi, Michele, Television Week, 15440516, 5/12/2003, Vol. 22, Issue 19. Quote, ""Thank Goodness It's Funny" was branded and launched in the fall of 1989 by then-ABC Entertainment President (and now Disney President) Bob Iger. It was dominant in the 18-49 demo for most of the '90s, helping to make the decade a good one for 20/20, which has struggled increasingly since losing its "TGIF" lead-in." Given that, TGIF appears to be a notable topic. (Must See TV, which was another programming block, also has an article on Wikipedia, for whatever that's worth.) But this article does not establish that. I will add some information and references to the article this morning, but clearly the article (if it remains on Wikipedia) will need much more work.

In summary - to the extent that I have an opinion, I think the subject is notable. I agree with you that the article as it exists now has real issues. Which leads to the question - Should Wikipedia purge articles that have issues, but are about notable topics? Or should the article remain, in the hope that it will be improved? I don't know the answer to that, honestly. I'm still learning here. Take it easy -- James James Cage (talk) 15:10, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Original Research

I tagged this article as consisting almost entirely of original research on 19 January 2013. I did not tag individual sections, as that would be every section at this point. I believe this article should be improved by deleting tenuously related material for which there is no reference, and adding references for more relevant material (where references can be established). James Cage (talk) 16:32, 19 January 2014 (UTC)