Talk:TN status

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Canadians in the USA[edit]

Why is this section written exclusively for Canadians in the USA. It is the same procedure for Americans in Canada. Given the current statistical trend with Americans entering Canada on TN, this should be modified to reflect the relationship between both countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.57.146 (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stamped "Bad Alien"[edit]

This content sounds like it is an unverifiable personal experience and I cannot find any policy from USCIS that mirrors this. I've known several TN rejections, and this never happened. There are no cited sources.

I'm not removing it anymore. If anyone really cares about the topic, go ahead and try to make this entry meaningful as an encyclopedia.Offshore1 20:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been denied a TN Visa a number of times (because I didn't have the correct documentation) and I think they "withdrew" the application. I was fingerprinted and photographed then turned away... came back later with the correct documentation and was let in fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.181.60.33 (talk) 16:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TN-1[edit]

When I had a TN "visa", a lot of people (my employer's HR department, some customs people, etc) called it a "TN-1". Is that common enough that it should be mentioned in the article? -- Paul T —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.169.30 (talk) 22:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the search results for our site, not at all. On our site, it accounts for less than 2% of the search terms, and tn-related keywords account for ~50% of our traffic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.176.197.56 (talk) 19:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious[edit]

This is vandalism, right? I can't believe that if refused you'd be expected to give the medical conditions of your parents, spouse and children! I'll delete the statement in a day or two unless I hear otherwise. (EhJJ) 16:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the dubious (and almost certainly false) statement from the article. (EhJJ) 13:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Allowed occupations?[edit]

Is there a list of occupations that the TN status covers?

Here's the list from NAFTA Chapter Sixteen Appendix 1603.D.1.

I'm not sure if this list is the most updated one or not but it's the best I can find. I've added the following table to the main article. If someone can do a better job at formatting it please go ahead, or if someone has a more up to date list of accepted professions please update the table.--Corilof (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recognized TN Professionals

Profession^[1]	Minimum Education Requirements and Alternative Credentials

A

Accountant	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or C.P.A., C.A., C.G.A. or C.M.A.

Agriculturist including Agronomist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Animal Breeder	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Animal Scientist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Apiculturist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Architect	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license^[2]

Astronomer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

B

Biochemist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Biologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

C

Chemist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Computer Systems Analyst	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma^[3] or Post-Secondary certificate^[4], and three years experience

D

Dairy Scientist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Dentist	D.D.S., D.M.D., Doctor en Odontologia or Doctor en Cirugia Dental; or state/provincial license

Dietitian	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license

Disaster Relief Insurance Claims Adjuster claims adjuster employed by an insurance company located in the territory of a Party, or an independent claims adjuster	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree, and successful completion of training in the appropriate areas of insurance adjustment pertaining to disaster relief claims; or three years experience in claims adjustment and successful completion of training in the appropriate areas of insurance adjustment pertaining to disaster relief claims

E

Economist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Engineer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license

Entomologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Epidemiologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

F

Forester	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license

G

Geneticist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Geologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Geochemist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Geophysicist including Oceanographer in Mexico and the United States	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Graphic Designer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience

H

Horticulturist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Hotel Manager	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree in hotel/restaurant management; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate in hotel/restaurant management, and three years experience in hotel/restaurant management

I

Industrial Designer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience

Interior Designer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience

J

K

L

Land Surveyor	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial/federal license

Landscape Architect	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Lawyer including Notary in the Province of Quebec	LL.B., J.D., LL.L., B.C.L. or Licenciatura Degree (five years); or membership in a state/provincial bar

Librarian	M.L.S. or B.L.S. (for which another Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree was a prerequisite)

M

Management Consultant	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or equivalent professional experience as established by statement or professional credential attesting to five years experience as a management consultant, or five years experience in a field of specialty related to the consulting agreement

Mathematician including Statistician	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Medical Laboratory Technologist (Canada)/Medical Technologist (Mexico and the United States)^[5]	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience

Meteorologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

N

Nutritionist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

O

Occupational Therapist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license

P

Pharmacist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license

Pharmacologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Physician teaching or research only	M.D. or Doctor en Medicina; or state/provincial license

Physicist including Oceanographer in Canada	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Physiotherapist/Physical Therapist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license

Plant Breeder	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Poultry Scientist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Psychologist	State/provincial license; or Licenciatura Degree

Q

R

Range Manager/Range Conservationalist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Recreational Therapist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Registered Nurse	State/provincial license; or Licenciatura Degree

Research Assistant working in a post-secondary educational institution	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

S

Scientific Technician/Technologist^[6]	Possession of (a) theoretical knowledge of any of the following disciplines: agricultural sciences, astronomy, biology, chemistry, engineering, forestry, geology, geophysics, meteorology or physics; and (b) the ability to solve practical problems in any of those disciplines, or the ability to apply principles of any of those disciplines to basic or applied research

Social Worker	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Soil Scientist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Sylviculturist including Forestry Specialist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

T

Teacher College, Seminary or University teaching only	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

Technical Publications Writer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience

U

Urban Planner including Geographer	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

V

Veterinarian	D.V.M., D.M.V. or Doctor en Veterinaria; or state/provincial license

Vocational Counsellor	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree

W

X

Y

Z

Zoologist	Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
Footnotes ^ A business person seeking temporary entry may also perform training functions relating to the profession, including conducting seminars. The following list was taken from the NAFTA Chapter Sixteen Appendix 1603.D.1 Retrieved 27 January 2009. ^ "State/provincial license" and "state/provincial/federal license" mean any document issued by a state, provincial or federal government, as the case may be, or under its authority, but not by a local government, that permits a person to engage in a regulated activity or profession. ^ "Post-Secondary Diploma" means a credential issued, on completion of two or more years of postsecondary education, by an accredited academic institution in Canada or the United States. ^ "Post-Secondary Certificate" means a certificate issued, on completion of two or more years of postsecondary education at an academic institution, by the federal government of Mexico or a state government in Mexico, an academic institution recognized by the federal government or a state government, or an academic institution created by federal or state law. ^ A business person in this category must be seeking temporary entry to perform in a laboratory chemical, biological, hematological, immunologic, microscopic or bacteriological tests and analyses for diagnosis, treatment or prevention of disease. ^ A business person in this category must be seeking temporary entry to work in direct support of professionals in agricultural sciences, astronomy, biology, chemistry, engineering, forestry, geology, geophysics, meteorology or physics. External links modified[edit] Hello fellow Wikipedians, I have just modified one external link on TN status. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes: Added `{{dead link}}` tag to http://canada.usembassy.gov/business/doing-business-in-america/tn-visas-professionals-under-nafta.html Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20151025031526/http://canada.usembassy.gov/visas/doing-business-in-america/professions-covered-by-nafta.html to http://canada.usembassy.gov/visas/doing-business-in-america/professions-covered-by-nafta.html When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template `{{source check}}` (last update: 18 January 2022). If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool. If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool. Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 17:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply] Is "TN" the right terminology for Americans working in Canada or Mexico?[edit] I thought TN only refers to Canadians and Mexicans working in the US. I know NAFTA grants Americans certain rights for working in Canada and Mexico but I don't think these are called "TN". Can someone verify this? Krubo (talk) 00:24, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply] Much of this article is strictly from the perspective of the US. The immigration law as well as the terminology and instrument for the work authorization as well as the process that a worker executes to obtain it under this Treaty is different in each of the three countries (US, Canada, Mexico). Rather than remove information and descriptions relevant to Canada and Mexico, it should remain in this article under a heading for each country. In US, it is defined as a TN visa under US immigration law. Not so in Canada or Mexico. In fact, in Canada, it is not even defined as a visa but rather Temporary Work Permit. Process and cost to apply for it are slightly different in each country. (talk) 22:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] A business person seeking temporary entry may also perform training functions relating to the profession, including conducting seminars. The following list was taken from the NAFTA Chapter Sixteen Appendix 1603.D.1 Retrieved 27 January 2009.

[2] "State/provincial license" and "state/provincial/federal license" mean any document issued by a state, provincial or federal government, as the case may be, or under its authority, but not by a local government, that permits a person to engage in a regulated activity or profession.

[3] "Post-Secondary Diploma" means a credential issued, on completion of two or more years of postsecondary education, by an accredited academic institution in Canada or the United States.

[4] "Post-Secondary Certificate" means a certificate issued, on completion of two or more years of postsecondary education at an academic institution, by the federal government of Mexico or a state government in Mexico, an academic institution recognized by the federal government or a state government, or an academic institution created by federal or state law.

[5] A business person in this category must be seeking temporary entry to perform in a laboratory chemical, biological, hematological, immunologic, microscopic or bacteriological tests and analyses for diagnosis, treatment or prevention of disease.

[6] A business person in this category must be seeking temporary entry to work in direct support of professionals in agricultural sciences, astronomy, biology, chemistry, engineering, forestry, geology, geophysics, meteorology or physics.

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Canadians in the USA[edit]

Stamped "Bad Alien"[edit]

TN-1[edit]

Dubious[edit]

Allowed occupations?[edit]

External links modified[edit]

Is "TN" the right terminology for Americans working in Canada or Mexico?[edit]