Talk:Tainui

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Replace Tainui myth with proven facts.[edit]

I notice that even Tainui in their new shops in Te Awa,The Base are unsure where they came from.The picto/ map by the food centre shows the waka coming both over the Tamaki isthmus AND down the west coast from North Cape.Now it has been revealed that Uenuku ,the legendary Tainui bird ,bought from their homeland is made of NZ Totara!Not only that but some years ago the resting place of Tainui was investigated by Auckland University-the decayed wood in the resting place was also Nz Totara.Apparently some in Tainui have known this for years but have kept quiet.All this is consistent with the well known Symonds theory from the 1970s that Northland was the "Hawaiki"or source area for many NZ waka.Tainui legends tell of finding people on the land already and pushing then south till they were finally beaten in a battle about 1450 on the banks of the Waikato near Atiamuri.Legend also tells of them bringing the Kumara to the Waikato.This is consistent with arrival from the north where Kumara is much easier to grow due to the warmer climate.Claudia feb 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.186.74 (talk) 09:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe merge this and Waikato Tainui[edit]

Are there any Tainui people besides just the Waikato Tainui? I ask because the history and background of the tribe on this page seems exactly like the history on the official Waikato Tainui website http://waikatotainui.com/?id=1. If there aren't other tribes, then it might be best just to merge this with the page on the Waikato Tainui. If they are different, then it might be good to include more information on other Tainui tribes, and maybe put some of the content here on the Waikato Tainui page. Just a thought. Nanib (talk) 20:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC) Waikato Tainui is just a variation on Tainui. Neither is a precise term in terms of Maori history. It is more a modern invention. It is only in modern times that Tainui have ever acted as a unit in a political or economic sense. Tainui is the name of one of the main alleged founding waka/canoe and Waikato is the river and or area in which Tainui mainly lived. Tainui is the name in more general, popular as well as academic use. Waikato Tainui is seldom used. The short answer to your Q is no. A Tainui person living in Wellington is still Tainui. Probably the biggest number of Tainui living outside of the Waikato area/rohe live in Queensland Australia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]