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Star Trek[edit]

Should indicate which series, as the original series was obviously created before Buckaroo Bonzai. Is it TNG or the movies or what that contains countless references? --12.226.230.75 18:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's TNG and DS9 for sure, I'm not sure about the rest. I'll see if I can check and edit that in when I've got the time.--MythicFox 14:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • There was also a reference in an episode of Voyager (can't remember the name of the eps.) where Janeway and Chakotay are in the holodeck and Janeway talks to a hologram and mentions beings coming out of the rocks and Chakotay adds "By way of the 8th Dimension."MindScream 12:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, there was an episode of Enterprise that featured Peter Weller, the guy who plays Banzai, and there is a scene where he very prominently uses a prop that is a exact duplicate of the oscillation overthruster prop. 147.31.8.101 (talk) 03:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

There's a cleanup tag on this page, but no discussion of it here. If the page is clean enough now, I suggest we remove that tag. Oed 01:37, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good work; I have removed the cleanup tag. Joshuardavis 02:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When commerce kicked Bladerunner into the dirt, Bonzai was born[edit]

This is still one of my perennial favorites and hope to see more posters contribute to the main page with obscure details and any insight into the latest Alien manifestation taking place in watermelon crops across the world.--71.131.191.31 08:39, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge, World Crime League[edit]

Propose moving World Crime League into main Buckaroo Banzai article. Remember, Wikipedia has a search engine and is searchable with Google. There's no need to provide separate articles for minor characters, etc. --John Nagle 20:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not merge. There are several entities that use the moniker "World Crime League" , unrelated to the film "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension". --Helicopter01 01:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not merge since, I feel, there are several aspects of the whole B. Banzai universe that can stand alone... Take for examplatory instance, List of minor characters in Blade Runner. There certainly could be something similar providing information on such characters as New Jersey, Perfect Tommy and Rawhide.. DrWho42 19:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Why the urge to merge?Helo01 11:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Blaze Irregulars or Blue Blazer Regulars?[edit]

When watching the movie, I always heard it as "Blue Blazer Regulars" instead of "Blue Blaze Irregulars" (although the two sound very close). At the bottom of the article in the FASA bullet, it mentions the "Blue Blazers" but in the body it calls them the "Blue Blaze Irregulars." Is there a canonical source on this? 128.195.20.127 23:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I believe it is "Blue Blaze Irregulars." The allusion is to the Baker Street Irregulars in the Sherlock Holmes stories. If I could find my copies of the short-lived World Watch One fanzine (and hadn't given away my copy of the novelization), I believe I could verify that.
  • While not necessarily canonical, the French subtitles on the DVD use "Veste Bleues" and "Blazer Bleus". --The CyberSlug 04:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't buy into the overseas propaganda. There are no blazers involved, of any color, unless they are worn voluntarily.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kortoso (talk • contribs) 23:21, 27 October 2014‎

Lectroids[edit]

Where was/is it mentioned that the Lectoids are reptillian? I was always under the impression that they were insectoid, possibly due to their red and black division quite like red and black ants.--RedKnight 23:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One piece of evidence is the name Lizardo, i.e., a lizard. More importantly, the lectroid’s faces and hands look like reptiles, not like insects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stolkin (talk • contribs) 07:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(I believe the tern is really "Lectroids" as they were 'bio-electric' and there's electrical arcing going on when they get injured) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.121.81.140 (talk) 20:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question about possible change[edit]

Are the factoid subtitles that come on the DVD considered a source for plot information? Because, if so, this article is wrong in that Rawhide isn't dead, the Banzai Institute managed to put him in cryogenic suspended animation before he died and currently has an entire wing dedicated to finding a antidote to the spine's poison. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.51.89.79 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 24 November 2006.

Hi there... Welcome to Wikipedia! You may want to get a registered username, makes certain things easier. Also, it is typical to put new comments at the bottom. Also, as the banner says at the top, all comments on Talk pages should be signed with four tildes. --Bhuston 12:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overthruster prop[edit]

The article mentions the possibility of the Flux Capacitor design being inspired by the Oscillation Overthruster, which is then discounted because the props look nothing alike. However, one of the controls for the OO is a triangular display with a similar look to the FC - this is probably what was meant.

Also, the OO prop itself appears in an episode of Babylon 5 as a Starfury component. [1]

--The CyberSlug 04:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially a amplituhedronic design. Kortoso (talk) 23:39, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Makes of automobiles in the movie[edit]

Quite a while ago I added some information about the makes of the automobiles featured in the movie. The jetcar in the opening sequence was a Ford truck, and later Banzai mentions that while escaping the mental institution, Warphin had copped a Maserati Bora and trashed it a few blocks away.

I am wondering why these additions would be redacted? I am fairly new to Wiki, so maybe I am missing something.

--Vodalus 08:58, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Novelization?[edit]

In the article it states that a novelization was released to coincide with the DVD. Unless I am mistaken, that was actually a re-release of a novel that pre-dated the movie. Wayne Harrison —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.36.132.66 (talk) 22:19, 9 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Rawhide[edit]

The article says Rawhide is dead presumably. In the dvd commentary and the facts subtitle track it states that he was put on ice until they could find a cure for the Lectoid dart's poison and would be back 'soon'. Sliferjam 16:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

4.1 Watermelons: There is no mention of watermelons[edit]

Actually, it is very clearly a watermelon and is confirmed to be a watermelon within the special features of the DVD.--RedKnight 23:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crisis on Infinite Earths #11/B.Banzai.[edit]

B. Banzai was not the name on Helena Wayne's apartment, it was B. Bundzai. I posted a link to the actual panel and it was deleted as being a Spambot entry. But the name was not B. Banzai. It was stated in several article at the time but is not true. It probably was a nod to the movie which had come out at the same time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.12.160.139 (talk) 03:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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References in popular culture[edit]

I removed this section from the main article as it is unsourced and a list which Wikipedia tends to frown on. I've put it here until some can cite these references and place 'em somewhere in the article. --J.D. (talk) 15:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • In the MMORPG World of Warcraft, on the border of Thousand Needles there is an area consisting of flat desert with a mountain. Tire tracks lead up to the mountain and abruptly end just before the mountain wall, but the tracks then resume on the other side, in Tanaris, and lead to a crashed vehicle - a reference to the test of the Oscillation Overthruster.[citation needed]
  • The computer game "BZFlag" includes a game element named the "oscillation overthruster" which allows a player to travel through solid objects.
  • The expression "monkey boy" is used in other movies. It was used in a different context prior to the Banzai movie, for example in The Great Locomotive Chase (1954). In the films Men in Black (1997) and My Favorite Martian (1999), however, it is used in the same context as used by Whorfin in Banzai; that is, a space alien referring to human primate origins.[citation needed]
  • The computer game City of Heroes contains a reference to the oscillation overthruster. In the game, it is an item that can be used by Science and Technology based heroes to increase the intangibility duration of their powers. There are also multiple references to the film contained "radio missions", including rescuing P. Priddy of the BB Institute, defeating Operative Whorfin, and bosses ordering heroes confined to the Pit.[citation needed]
  • The mercenary unit Team Banzai, led by the enigmatic Dr. Buckaroo Banzai, appears in the fictional Battletech universe. Team Banzai first appeared in the House Davion Handbook (Published by FASA in 1988 ISBN 1-55560-035-2) as an Elite mercenary Battlemech Regiment under contract to the Federated Suns. Further references appear throughout the Battletech Universe canon. Team Banzai is listed as comprising three Battalions: the Hong Kong Cavaliers, the Radar Rangers, and the Blue Blazers. Characters noted as belonging to Team Banzai (besides the unit's leader, Dr. Banzai) include Perfect Tommy, Reno Nevada, and Rawhide. The unit travels between planets on a jumpship named The Nth Dimension.[citation needed]
  • In the movie Nothing [2], John Bigboote's name is called over the PA system when Dave comes to work for the very last time.
  • In an episode of Spongebob Squarepants, Patrick's first goal of achievement was to "defeat the Giant Monkey Man and save the 9th Dimension", before Spongebob retorts by saying "it sounds a little hard", then decides it would be to "defeat the little Monkey Man and save the 8th Dimension."[citation needed]
  • The closing credits of The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou feature the title character walking along a waterfront, joined one at a time by his companions. At the end he reaches his ship and a character who died during the movie is waiting for them there. This is almost a shot-for-shot replay of the credits for Buckaroo Banzai. Both movies feature Jeff Goldblum.

and more[edit]

another trivia point to work in somewhere: for a number of years there was a bar in Manhattan named Perfect Tommy's. I remember seeing an ad in the yellow pages. I think it depicted a man wearing a sandwich board sign that said "no matter where you go, there you are"; I know that that slogan was used in connection with the place. According to newsweek [3] they had velcro suit jumping there. The new york times mentions sumo wrestling using inflatable suits [4]. probably should have its own article. [5] says it was at 511 amsterdam ave. user Akb4 (not logged in) 141.154.78.25 (talk) 06:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear how that's remotely notable enough to be included. Xihr (talk) 22:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even more[edit]

  • In the MMORPG World of Warcraft, on the border of Thousand Needles there is an area consisting of flat desert with a mountain. Tire tracks lead up to the mountain and abruptly end just before the mountain wall, but the tracks then resume on the other side, in Tanaris, and lead to a crashed vehicle - a reference to the test of the Oscillation Overthruster.[citation needed]
  • The computer game "BZFlag" includes a game element named the "oscillation overthruster" which allows a player to travel through solid objects.
  • The expression "monkey boy" is used in other movies. It was used in a different context prior to the Banzai movie, for example in The Great Locomotive Chase (1954). In the films Men in Black (1997) and My Favorite Martian (1999), however, it is used in the same context as used by Whorfin in Banzai; that is, a space alien referring to human primate origins.[citation needed]
  • The computer game City of Heroes contains a reference to the oscillation overthruster. In the game, it is an item that can be used by Science and Technology based heroes to increase the intangibility duration of their powers. There are also multiple references to the film contained "radio missions", including rescuing P. Priddy of the BB Institute, defeating Operative Whorfin, and bosses ordering heroes confined to the Pit.[citation needed]
  • The mercenary unit Team Banzai, led by the enigmatic Dr. Buckaroo Banzai, appears in the fictional Battletech universe. Team Banzai first appeared in the House Davion Handbook (Published by FASA in 1988 ISBN 1-55560-035-2) as an Elite mercenary Battlemech Regiment under contract to the Federated Suns. Further references appear throughout the Battletech Universe canon. Team Banzai is listed as comprising three Battalions: the Hong Kong Cavaliers, the Radar Rangers, and the Blue Blazers. Characters noted as belonging to Team Banzai (besides the unit's leader, Dr. Banzai) include Perfect Tommy, Reno Nevada, and Rawhide. The unit travels between planets on a jumpship named The Nth Dimension.[citation needed]
  • In the movie Nothing [6], John Bigboote's name is called over the PA system when Dave comes to work for the very last time.
  • In an episode of Spongebob Squarepants, Patrick's first goal of achievement was to "defeat the Giant Monkey Man and save the 9th Dimension", before Spongebob retorts by saying "it sounds a little hard", then decides it would be to "defeat the little Monkey Man and save the 8th Dimension."[citation needed]
  • The closing credits of The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou feature the title character walking along a waterfront, joined one at a time by his companions. At the end he reaches his ship and a character who died during the movie is waiting for them there. This is almost a shot-for-shot replay of the credits for Buckaroo Banzai. Both movies feature Jeff Goldblum.
  • The popular computer game BZFlag has a flag that is called the oscillation overthruster that allows the tank to go through objects.
Unsourced and trivial material.--J.D. (talk) 14:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Big Trouble in Little China connection?[edit]

I heard that when the decided to tank the "World Crime League" sequel they rewrote it and it became Big Trouble in Little China. I wonder if there is any truth to it?--76.31.242.174 (talk) 19:51, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

   Within the party i watched BB with, we considered the possibility that the sequel mention was real, versus the more plausible theory that they were evoking the weekly movie serials of the pre-TV culture. You'll catch other hints of those films' breathless plots, no doubt, if you read our article on that lost medium, and in the lyrics about "just like an old-time movie".
   On the other hand, i did pick up a used copy of a paperback novel corresponding to the film, long afterward ... in the last 5 years, i'd guess. My theory is that the lack of any hint of publication data in it is part of a post-film joke, rather a sign of the book having really preceded the film, but i haven't done my due diligence with Books in Print or whatever medium has replaced it. (A good reference librarian at a larger public library, or better yet, any post-high-school academic library, and a lot of good high-school ones, can help you, if you have trouble getting hands on old and new BiPs, and you're interested enuf.)
--Jerzy•t 05:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

“…has reached cult film status”?[edit]

Is this a fact, or opinion? How could it possibly be measured, and therefore should it be the sort of language for use in an encyclopaedia entry? What sort of criteria make it possible to judge? Would three fans who watch it every day confer that status on it, or two hundred people watching it once a month, or what? It might also want to be said that the “cult” if it exists is probably limited to the U.S., as it doesn’t seem to have any following at all anywhere else in the world.Jock123 (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a film is a "cult film" if attracts a following of a certain sort, as do films like Eraserhead, Repo Man, and films by Jim Jarmusch. The use of the term in recognized media is confirmation, as supported by footnotes. RMcGuigan (talk) 17:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is generally considered a cult film by a variety of sources. Movie critics refer to it as a cult film when mentioning it. [7], [8]. Allmovie Guide considers it a cult film. [9]. Movie books describe it as a cult film. [10], [11]. -- Whpq (talk) 17:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(an evaluation of accompanying article's topic film for quality. I suggest section heading "My non-comprehending aesthetic judgment" )[edit]

This movie is the biggest turd ever made. It's almost as bad as Blood Rayne. I don't understand its appeal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.152.178 (talk) 02:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"the car diesels"[edit]

A Google for that phrase turns up like 5 results for that usage. Does anyone outside of car people actually know what "to diesel" means as a verb? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.70.128 (talk) 08:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For a gasoline engine "to diesel" is for it to continue operating after electrical power is removed. (see Dieseling) 214.4.238.180 (talk) 16:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's a commonly-used term everywhere I've lived. rowley (talk) 16:37, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And back in the old days, when this film was made, everybody got the joke. Cars don't diesel anymore because dieseling causes large amounts of unburned fuel to be blown out of the exhaust, so there's anti-dieseling mystery stuff installed on all cars now (and since a long time ago). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 15:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No mystery stuff. Fuel injected engines use an electric fuel pump that's turned off when the ignition is off. Most engines with a carb use a mechanical fuel pump driven by the engine to supply fuel to the float bowl in the carb. From there the fuel is drawn into the engine by vacuum. If there is carbon buildup in the combustion chambers it can remain hot enough to ignite the fuel without an electric spark from the ignition system, much like a diesel uses the simple process of compressing air until it gets hot enough to ignite the diesel fuel. Bizzybody (talk) 21:58, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fictitious novels[edit]

Is it really necessary to say "fictitious novels"? rowley (talk) 16:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As opposed to pseudo-documentaries? Of course.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kortoso (talk • contribs) 23:21, 27 October 2014‎

Location?[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a mention of it, but I think the filming location of some shots in an old tire plant (Firestone?) off I5 might be mentioned. Keith Henson (talk) 23:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reaction Addenda[edit]

I remember talking to the stills photographer for the film, Kenny Rogers (No, not "The Gambler"), when the film was in post-production. He was wandering around Hollywood wearing one of those silly headbands, and chatting up anybody he could about the great film he had just worked on: 

"It's about aliens from Jamaica that look like lobsters, and a super-scientist"

Apparently, the people who worked on the film had NO IDEA what it was about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arcade game[edit]

There was an arcade game which combined full motion video, most likely from a LaserDisc, with computer graphics. I saw it at the BSU Student Union building before I ever heard of the movie. Part of it involved piloting a thermo-pod to attack the Red Lectroid ship. Bizzybody (talk) 22:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The most famous quote from this film is "No matter where you go, there you are." .


from [email deleted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinemafred (talk • contribs) 02:12, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the name Buckaroo - country?[edit]

Is there any connection between Buckaroo Banzai and the country singer Buck Owens and the Buckaroos? 93.219.161.166 (talk) 07:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

   Doubt it. My money is on either Buckaroo or wikt:Buckaroo.
--Jerzy•t 04:01, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious[edit]

The article claims (without citation) that the "Oscillation Overthruster" prop was the basis for Back To The Futures's "Flux Capacitor" prop. They don't really look alike. --Stybn (talk) 17:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

   It should be source, but failing to look the same hardly rules out being its basis. (That's one of the nice things about documenting the sources: even if you think get why, failing to put in the who-sez prevents the rest of the known universe from not getting ... and reverting you on the reasonable assumption that you're just a jerk.)
--Jerzy•t 03:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cast list problem(s)[edit]

   While the 2-column set up of the section "Cast" was a good idea, it got broken when i fixed the inconsistency in how it was formatted. It looks better than it did, in spite of that, but i expect that it'll look even better if someone who's more experienced with double columns can fix the two-column feature w/o breaking the logically required formatting i added.
--Jerzy•t 03:44, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What about a section, re sequel-teaser "Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League"[edit]

   I'm just saving the following, without further refinement, upon discovering the site BANZAI INSTITUTE news which asserts copyrights, dated "1998, 2002,-2011", on its own content.

   At the risk of starting here a compound thread (that in my deranged mind might require splitting this talk section at some future date) the "Proposed sequels" section of the accompanying article is involved with more than one issue.
  • "The credits mention a sequel, Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League, which was never produced:"
   I'm inclined to construe those final minutes of the work's presentation as "another slice of watermelon", i.e., as part of the film's character as an homage to the tradition (i guess between the World Wars) no doubt documented by our articles cliffhanger and serial film:
  • Concepts created for mass audience appeal and with little concern for literary merit
  • Serials, which support sharing many production and promotion costs over the whole series
  • Perhaps multi-platforming, which supports sharing creative costs... but in this case probably just a promotional gesture.
  •    The following contextual features encourage my surmise that none of those in a position to know took seriously the sequel teaser (and that the novel was valued more as promotional material than as a revenue source):
The paperback Buckaroo Banzai (titled subscripted TM on the front cover), by Earl Mac Rauch (who got a "thanks to" credit on the 2002 video Buckaroo Banzai Declassified)
has "First printing August 1984" in its front matter, and
"Now an astounding motion picture from 20th Century Fox!" above title on the cover; and "ISBN 671-54058-0 "from "Pocket Fiction".
On its back back cover:
"What on Earth? Lectroids from Planet 10!" (all-caps suppressed as a courtesy to WP readers!)
________
"The latest frenzied adventure torn from the lives of Buckaroo Banzai and The Hong Kong Cavaliers! Join Team Banzai in this action packed escapade as an interplanetary crossfire threatens to destroy the planet Earth!"
________
"Buckaroo Banzai [likewise deshouted here]--- a bold, titillating mix of particle physics, rock 'n' roll, super-sonic speed machines, beautiful women, and villains beyond redemption [esp. John Lithgow ... shudder!].
Buckaroo Banzai. [yet again deshouted] If he's not one thing, [no typographical pregnant pause, what a shame!] he's another."
and followed by boxed ad for the film.

   I guess my main thots are that a more serious fan than myself may want to update the article. And that i may be the most serious surviving fan, if only by virtue of owning a used copy of the paperback.
--Jerzy•t 22:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Special effects[edit]

The article is still missing a section on the special effects, particularly for the short sequence that actually takes place in the 8th dimension early in the film. It does actually look a lot like early CGI (probably inserted either by means of back projection or bluescreen) akin to Tron, in contrast to one of the reviews claiming that CGI didn't exist back then. --46.93.158.170 (talk) 04:26, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

What is the policy regarding inclusion of single-frames from the movie?

There is a scene right at the end of the movie where most of the principal characters are walking toward the camera. This would be an excellent image as it could be used to identify the various characters. Is a low-rez image of this type "cool"?

Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know the scene you're talking about (in the LA canal basins in credits?), but I would strongly recommend that if we can get something about costume design or something talking about reception of costumes of the Irregulars that you would nail the appropriate use of an image here not only for cast but for visual looks. --Masem (t) 15:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So all is good if we find a source on costume design? Hmm... Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Let me restate, as this is all about meeting WP:NFCC#8 (I'm being devil's advocate here, not trying to stop the addition). Right now, if I presume I never saw the film, I can get a good idea about the work without seeing an image outside of the poster, so the second part of NFCC#8 is likely not met (should sometime take it to deletion). You could justify that this shows the cast, but I would argue "so what? why not add in free images of them, of which several we have?" but if you can say "Okay, what about the costumes here, what's unique or interesting about them that I can source and talk about that the image would help?" then you have something that makes NFCC#8 met. Whether that is how they selected the outfits, or what influence those outfits had, or that Jeff Goldblum in a cowboy outfit is hilarious, I dunno, but having something here will strengthen the need to show the outfits and thus the rational for that image. --Masem (t) 16:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have added a separate section on this, including the background of the costume designer, which seems cogent. How does it look now? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now you 're in the ballpark for reasonable use of that cast image. I'd try to add more (like again, why Goldblum's cowboy outfit? ) but you have enough to add the cast image now and work more towards that, you've got a good double-duty image. --Masem (t) 17:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also you didn't see this link from me [12] :) --Masem (t) 18:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work everyone! Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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