Talk:The Aquabats/Archive 1

List of Enemies

I feel like the list of enemies is getting a little long. I'm not saying we should delete any of them that are there now, but if you are going to add more, please only do so if it is a relatively major foe. Obviously guys like Powdered Milk Man, the Sandfleas etc belong on the list, but not every little obscure guy who the guys beat up onstage once. FilthMasterFlex 05:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

As a try at doing something different, I put the villians into a table (using wiki table markup). It does make it harder to maintain, but it uses the space better and mitigates the length of the list. What do you all think?  — Saxifrage | ☎ 07:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. Makes it look much nicer. - STAREYe 16:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree the list of enemies is getting too long. Perhaps it shuold be limited to those enemies which have a verifiable source - I.E. The ones listed under the "universe" tab on the official web site. dogbomb 09:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

considering The Aquabats!' recent attacks on Panic! At The Disco, should they be considered supervillains? or just something else? read their site stuff about that... ~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.134.203.4 (talk) 15:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

Is GWAR really an enemy of The Aquabats? I find it pretty hard to believe, considering how different they are musically.

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Hey guys, check out the Aquabats forum. There's a thread in there about these articles; they really seem to enjoy them! Pretty gratifying if you ask me. Have a nice day everybody. FilthMasterFlex 02:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Dear mindless fool,

The fact is on their latest record "Yo, Check Out This Ride EP" he is credited as Jimmy The Robot.

He signs his autographs as "Jimmy The Robot". He started this after the release of the EP. He stopped using the "J.A.M.E.S." moniker after the release of "The Fury..."

I win.

Stop.

Please.

I win.

Thank you for finally coming here. Fortunately, there is no win or lose, just greater accuracy for the article. I "win" because now you're actually here and paying attention to what others are saying. For instance, if you had looked at the edit history, you would have noticed that people are citing the official website as evidence for retaining the other text. Now you've provided a rationale for changing it. This is good, we can have a dialogue now about how the article should read.

I don't have access to the credits on Yo, Check Out This Ride. Can you provide a link so that the article has something to cite other than the official website?

(BTW, please sign Talk page comments so that others can tell who's saying what as the conversation develops. Also, review Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Civility to avoid violating Wikipedia policy with names like "mindless fool". I'm not taking offence now since you didn't know better, but other editors won't be so relaxed about it.)  — Saxifrage | ☎ 20:44, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

I cannot show you the proof that he is now known as Jimmy The Robot as i have no digital camera (or similar device). My advice to you if you feel I am a liar is to check out www.theaquabats.com/forum and ask there. Those super fans will back up what I say.

This isn't about whether I believe you. This is about rules for how Wikipedia cites the contents of its articles, i.e., by linking to verifiable, authoritative sources. If we can't provide a reference for something that contradicts a reference we do have, it must be changed back. However, it shouldn't be hard to find a reference if he is going by "Jimmy the Robot" now, but I was hoping that the editor with the desire to see this factoid in the article would also have a desire to make sure it stays there through good encyclopedic practices rather than counter-productive behaviour such as edit warring.

If you don't wish to do the work of maintaining the article's referential integrity by finding a reference for your own edit, then I'll simply thank you for bringing it to our attention.  — Saxifrage | ☎ 06:49, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

Good morning sirs. How's everybody doing. Now, now, let's not let this get heated. It's not like this is Evolution or something. Let's all keep in mind we are talking about a band that wears superhero outfits and fights people like Wendy the Broccoli Bee. Now let's address the situation.

On the Aquabats DVD, "Serious Awesomeness!", our esteemed Commander refers to the Robot as Jimmy, which he answers to and begins to say something, after which the Commander interrupts and says "You just answered to Jimmy, isn't your name Jaime?" to which the Robot responds, "Oh, well, what are you gonna do?"

On the new EP, "Yo, Check out this Ride!", the Robot is indeed credited as "Jimmy." Incidentally, the CD also says "SHALOM!" on it. That doesn't have much to do with anything, but it's still funny. (If you take a look at the YCOTR page that I put together a few weeks ago, you'll notice that I did put Jimmy in the personell section, because that's how he's credited on the album. I was less inclined to change the article however.)

I can't attest to how he signs autographs now, since I live approximately 3000 miles away from Southern California. We'll just have to wait for the world tour.

Basically, Mr. Anon, sir, no one is calling you a liar. There's no need to be on the offensive. On the other hand, I think your comment about "super fans" is very telling. It seems to me (and of course I've never met you and have only your words and actions to judge by) that you consider yourself a huge fan of our band of heroes, and as such you really want to make a mark on this page and will defend it vehemently (as you have so far). Now, there's nothing wrong with this. But let's keep in mind that we aren't writing a fan club article, we are contributing to a repository of knowledge. Therefore, I believe the course of action we'd ought to take is use what I had before (I haven't bothered tracking the revert war, so I don't know what my colleague Saxifrage has done) and list all three of the names used to refer to him. I feel like that if we want to create a bank of knowledge, we'd ought to put as much knowledge and information as we can.

Now then, Mr. Anon, I'd recommend a few things. Please register, that'd be really cool and we could all see the other edits you've made, people can leave you talk page messages, and much more fun fun stuff. Second, if you really want to throw out your knowledge of the ABats, help out and write one of the album pages. So far the only one that exists is YCOTR, and I did that. That would in the end be much more helpful than silly revert wars over things that, in the grand scheme of things, aren't really that important.

Let's just be civil about this, and please don't take offence to anything I just said. After all, I'm being much nicer than I usually am to people who call me a mindless fool. FilthMasterFlex 07:09, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This page needs a new photo of The Aquabats. The cover of The Fury... does not represent who The Aquabats are today. 4 people on that cover are not in the band anymore and 4 are still in the band. They did a lot of press photos for Charge!! Someone should get clearance to use one of those. --Mr. Anon 02:28, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Chainsaw didn't leave, did he? STAREYe 23:25, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

No. Chainsaw was at the Chicago date on the first leg of this tour. This is why Popeye was added to the lineup: because Chainsaw wouldn't be able to make it to all of the dates. He will return sometime soon.

That's what I thought. STAREYe

Wait... should Ska Boss be considered an enemy? Wasn't that song a cover of a Skatalites song? TealMan 22:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think he's an enemy, moreso someone they like hopefully, and it might of been a cover. Heck he may be an ally. Fromps 21:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

According to their website for that song, yes it's a cover and yes they like the Skalites. 12.205.149.45 01:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Exclamation mark in name

I dispute that it's part of the name. Consider The Aquabats vs. the Floating Eye of Death! : if it were an integral part of the name, it would be after "Aquabats" there too. Rather, I think the more obvious explanation is just that they like exclamation marks. So in only just so happens that when the band name appears alone (such as on their official site) it is always with an exclamation mark after. — Saxifrage ✎ 07:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

no. it's part of their name. just because its not used in one album title (out of many) is not much of a reason. other than that album it's used just about everywhere! (including albums, stickers, websites, myspace pages, etc. --GURT 07:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

It appears to be a stylistic device, not part of the name. Since nowhere do they say which it is explicitly, if they're being inconsistent we get to choose. Precedent in naming articles is to go without extra punctuation and stylistic devices, since it makes the article harder to read and looks unprofessional. If it's preferred by fans, that's no reason either since Wikipedia isn't in the business of doing fanservice. Besides, nowhere else includes the exclamation in the name: look them up at Last.fm, Pandora, or Musicbrainz. — Saxifrage ✎ 20:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not a stylistic device. It is how the band spells their name. It appears with the exclamation point more often than not. It has nothing to do with fan-service. last.fm and pandora are not a source of definitive information and MB data changes constantly. This band has an exclamation point in their name and so do other bands with wikipedia articles. --GURT 21:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

But again, they're inconsistent so we get to pick. — Saxifrage ✎ 20:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, if we get to pick, how about we start a vote on it? I despise redirects, and I think it should stay "The Aquabats" because few people are going to type the exclamation point. --Lyght 20:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, I don't think the exclamation point needs to be there. The spelling with the exclamation point usually only shows up in their logos. I say we vote on it. --Lyght 22:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

line up history

Travis Barker joined in 1996. The current info is incorrect. Just a heads up. Nacho also left in late 96. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr. Anon (talk • contribs) .

Jimmy the Robot also joined the band in 1996, as did Captain Croxall. The Capt. left in August 1996. Bc.rox.all 05:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Does anybody know anything about a breakup or hiatus of the band? It's hinted at on their website.

yo gabba gabba

is muno (and maybe plex) the only two characters based off of the aquabats?

Broobee.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by -Frank- (talk • contribs) .

It's Brobee, Frank. --Lyght 19:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It's muno (cyclopsis) and brobee (weedy the broccoli bee) which can be seen in the universe part of www.theaquabats.com plex doesnt have any direct connection except for the fact that one of the aquabats stage name is Jimmy the ROBOT and plex is a robot

Yeah, that's pretty much what I told you. --Lyght 18:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

the end? (nope!) :)

hints on theaquabats.com news section seem to me that after this final cd the end of the aquabats is near

Nov 16 Update: "These are going to be the last time the Aquabats will be playing shows for a long long time! Do you remember a movie called 'The Sound of Music?' Well, in that movie the family Von Trapp made a similar promise to the friends and family of their homeland in Austria. Shortly thereafter, they disappeared over the alps into Switzerland and were not heard from again until the Nazis were defeated. What does this have to do with The Aquabats 2006 Holiday Jubilee shows....EVERYTHING! The Aquabats may not play again for a 'LONG LONG' time. Does that mean they will make an escape of their own over the Alps? It just may. Dont be those kids who said, 'Uh...I will just wait until they come back again this summer.." What if they dont come back ever? Then what, smarty pantses?"

"They have even invited old friends SUPERNOVA, THE LASHES and ARMY OF FRESHMEN to open the shows!! All of these bands are amazing and close enough to the Aquabats to be the type of bands that would be at a ...LAST SHOW?? The clues are all there kids, DON'T MISS OUT!!!"

Dec 5 update: "There are ONLY TWO SHOWS LEFT!! So make sure you can get there. These will be the last shows we play this year and for a whileso... definitely read between the lines and get out there!!"

Dec 21 Update: "Thanks for attending all of the shows and making these last shows...of the year...great."

"It will be history...for sure. it may be the greatest last show ....for a long time.....ever."

January 10 Update: "Actually, the band spent the NEW YEAR in a heated debate! The question as to whether or not we, the Aquabats should continue to be the best band in the world or if we should relinquish our title to hot teen sensations, 'The Panic! At the Discos.' It was a grueling battle, as the Debate raged on for hours, even coming to physical violence at times. Finally, it was decided that we must, for the sake of the good people of the Earth, remain the greatest band of all time..forever...that will never play in a stadium... or have a 'Buzz worthy' video on TRL."