Talk:The Conference of the Birds

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Introduction text taken directly from source[edit]

This sentence is taken directly from an article by Sholeh Wolpe (and also appears in his introduction to his translation): "Attar’s death, as with his life, is subject to speculation. He is known to have lived and died a violent death in the massacre inflicted by Genghis Khan and the Mongol army on the city of Nishapur in 1221, when he was seventy years old." It should be quoted or rewritten not just cited.

Rewrite synopsis?[edit]

Just a heads up that the synopsis section of this page spoiled the book for me a bit - the central pun on the Simorgh being the thirty birds that survive is a plot twist I hadn't reached yet in my own reading of the book. But because the synopsis is part summary, part commentary, I read the spoiler before getting to the part in my own reading. It might be worth re-organising the synopsis so it is similar to synopsis sections for other works of literature, so readers who do not want the ending spoiled can skip it. 217.138.75.228 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:18, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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this reminds me the end of the book: The Parrot's Theorem: A Novel, by Denis Guedj

Why is this an afghan stub? Shouldn't this be a Persian literature stub and/or a Sufism stub?

please check[edit]

could someone check Abu-Saeed Abil-Kheir claims, i assume incorectly, that he wrote this. <span style="border: solid 1px black;">[[User:Bsnowball|<font style="background:white;" color="black"> '''⇒ bsnowball''' </font>]]</span> (talk) 04:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

lake?[edit]

There is no lake in the poem, as far as I can see, it's a gross oversimplification of its symbolism too. I didn't delete it because I don't know Persian, and anyway I'm too lazy to significantly rewrite the article for wiki of which I don't care, but neither of several translations which I checked mentions any lake, they mention Light.

Now, gently, he unlocked the guarded door;

A hundred veils drew back, and there before

The birds’ incredulous, bewildered sight

Shone the unveiled, the inmost Light of Light.

...

Their life came from that close, insistent sun

And in its vivid rays they shone as one.

There in the Simorgh’s radiant face they saw

Themselves, the Simorgh of the world – with awe

They gazed, and dared at last to comprehend

They were the Simorgh and the journey’s end.

Afkham Darbandi and Dick Davis

Once more they ventured from the Dust to raise

Their Eyes—up to the Throne—into the Blaze,

And in the Centre of the Glory there

Beheld the Figure of—Themselves—as 'twere

Transfigured—looking to Themselves, beheld

The Figure on the Throne en-miracled,

Until their Eyes themselves and That between

Did hesitate which Sëer was, which Seen;

Edward FitzGerald

Now the Sun celestial began to shine forth in front of them, and lo! how great was their surprise! In the reflection of their faces these thirty birds of the earth beheld the face of the Celestial Simurg.

some prose translation on http://persian.packhum.org/persian/main?url=pf%3Ffile%3D02602030%26ct%3D0 217.118.64.48 (talk) 08:33, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]