Talk:The Dead Milkmen/Archive 1

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Satirical punk

Are there any references to refer to the DM as a "satirical punk" band. There used to be an article on "funny punk" which was deleted. I thought that there might actually be documentation of the use of "satirical punk" i think that's a really good description of this band and would also relate to a number of other bands. Anyone? Ideas? Xsxex 01:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Official Break-up?

when did the Milkmen officially break-up, i do understand, based on the FAQ section on there website, that they are still together sort of, and are holding out the possibility, maybe, of still playing shows. What I'm wondering is how is this defined? Indefinitely on hiatus, (since what year), broken up, broken up and reformed later? What happened between, like, 1996-2006? Xsxex 01:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

They broke up...I don't think that their FAQ gives the impression that they're open to playing live shows again at all. In fact, it pretty plainly says that they're not willing to set their current lives aside to play out. The 2004 shows were special circumstances, and in light of Dave's death, I seriously doubt they'll play again. The FAQ states that they are still together only on paper. 206.15.76.98 17:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

They're playing a show at the Knitting Factory, NYC, in April according to Facebook. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.14.23 (talk) 05:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it is fair to refer to the band as 'broken up' between the years of 1995-2004, and 2004-2008, as they remained completely inactive between the recording of their final record and the Dave Blood memorial shows, despite being "together on paper." The Knitting Factory show appears to have been a rumor [1] [2], but the band has confirmed their participation in the Fun Fun Fun Fest in Austin, TX in November, 2008 [3] [4] [5]. Colinclarksmith (talk) 17:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Bitchin Camaro

As much as I like that song, I don't think we need to have the lyrics to the entire song listed here. Maybe spinning it off into a new article would be a good idea. I'm gonna take it out though. Here are the lyrics:

Rod - Hey Jack, what's happenin'?

Joe - Oh, I don't know.

Rod - Well, rumor around town says you think you might be heading down to the shore.

Joe - Uh, yeah, I think I'm goin' down to the shore.

Rod - Whatcha gonna do down there? Joe - Uh, I don't know, play some video games, buy some Def Leppard t-shirts. Rod - Hey, don't forget to get your Motley Crue t-shirt, y'know, all proceeds go to get their lead singer out of jail. Joe - Uh huh. Rod - Hey, you gonna check out the Sandbar while you're there? Joe - Uh, what's the Sandbar? Rod - Oh, it's this place that lets sixteen year-old kids drink. Joe - Oh, cool. Rod - Y'know who's gonna be there? Joe - Uh, who? Rod - My favorite cover band, Crystal Shit. Joe - Oh. Rod - Yeah, they do a Doors show, you'd be really impressed, in fact, it goes a little like this:

Love me two times baby Love me twice today Love me two times girl Cause I got AIDS Love me two times baby, once for tomorrow, once cause I got AIDS

Joe - Wow, Pretty good Jim Morrison impersonation there. Rod - Yeah, I hope those guys have a good sense of humor and don't take us to court. Joe - Uh, what's the court? Rod - Never mind that, Joe - Oh, you mean like the People's Court? Rod - Well, that's another story; the important thing here is you gotta ask me how I'm gonna get down to the shore. Joe - Uh, how you gonna get down to the shore? Rod - Funny you should ask, I've got a car now. Joe - Oh wow, how'd you get a car? Rod - Oh my parents drove it up here from the Bahamas. Joe - You're kidding! Rod - I must be, the Bahamas are islands, okay, the important thing now, is that you ask me what kind of car I have. Joe - Uh, what kinda car do ya' got? Rod - I've got a BITCHIN CAMARO!

BITCHIN CAMARO, BITCHIN CAMARO I ran over my neighbors BITCHIN CAMARAO, BITCHIN CAMARO Now it's in all the papers. My folks bought me a BITCHIN CAMARO with no insurance to match; So if you happen to run me down, please don't leave a scratch. I ran over some old lady one night at the county fair; And I didn't get arrested, because my dad's the mayor. BITCHIN CAMARO, BITCHIN CAMARO Doughnuts on your lawn BITCHIN CAMARO, BITCHIN CAMARO Tony Orlando and Dawn When I drive past the kids, they all spit and cuss, Because I've got a BITCHIN CAMARO and they have to ride the bus. So you'd better get out of my way, when I run through your yard; Because I've got a BITCHIN CAMARO And an Exxon credit card. BITCHIN CAMARO, BITCHIN CAMARO Hey, man where ya headed? BITCHIN CAMARO, BITCHIN CAMARO I drive on unleaded.

--AW 03:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Lyrics are copyrighted so the entire lyrics shouldn't be posted on Wikipedia. - Throw 20:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Well good, since I removed them from the article --AW 20:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Origin of Name

My former roommate used to be close friends with the band when she lived in Philly. She claimed that the Dead Milkmen took their name from a comic book, Reid Flemming, World's Toughest Milkman.

The actual origin of the name has always been a mystery. Joe Jack Talcum has never told the same story twice about how he came up with the name. While many of us would like to have this mystery solved we will have to accept the fact with Joe not everything that comes out of his mouth can be trusted.--Riferimento 18:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, anyone want to prepend "The" to the band's name everywhere? ~ Strathmeyer 22:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Before the band, Joe had used the name The Dead Milkmen as a fake band for an english project and a fake Zine, as for if he made up the name just for the occasion, or as he claims "taken it from the book (Song of The Soloman)". Apparently in the book there's a character named Milkman Dead. Rodney17302 11:28, 28 May 2008

The article on the economics professor Colin Camerer mentions that he produced the Dead Milkmen (and some internet cites also support this claim, however, this article doesn't mention him at all. Should he be incorporated somewhere into this article?

Sdoroudi 10:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

What does it mean to produce a band? Like he produced one of their albums? I'm gonna remove it from Camerer's page, if it's not referenced (looks like vandalism). Llamabr (talk) 21:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Zine Interview

Here's an old interview with Rod's parents from Maximumrocknroll (November 1985). http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/mrrissue30_10DeadMilkmenInterviewandDCSceneReport.pdf Any of this deserve to be mentioned? Oystermind 05:37, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything particularly encyclopedic there myself. It might be worthwhile to check through the article and see if there are any uncited statements that could be supported by the interview. --Gimme danger 07:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding the removal of line about Joe's solo set

There is controversy regarding the following line which was tacked on to the "Reunion shows" section - "although Joe has announced that he they may be playing a shoe in Philadelphia in late october, prior to the festival." I deleted it and it was replaced; I am now planning on altering it and moving it. Here's why...

I removed this line for several reasons: A.) It is not relevant to the subject of the Dead Milkmen reunion set and should be grouped elsewhere (ie, in the section on the members' solo careers); B.) It is not a singularly unique event - Joe plays solo sets regularly in Philadelphia. I've seen him twice this year and a large number of times in the past. This set is receiving more attention than many solo Joe Jack Talcum sets (ie, was advertised on deadmilkmen.com,) but this does not make it unique and therefore relevant to the reunion sets; C.) It is grammatically poor, referring to a "show" as a "shoe" and failing to capitalize the 'O' in "October."

I will delete the sentence again and replace it with what I consider to be a more appropriate sentence elsewhere. Please follow up on this if you feel the need. Colinclarksmith (talk) 22:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)