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Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but is it really correct to list Grogu under a "Starring" heading for cast and characters? It implies that the puppet is playing himself(?). Is "Grogu" actually listed in the on-screen credits? He's certainly a character in the series, but an actor? I realize we've done it this way for every season, but it seems odd to me.
Can we list the voice actor (and/or puppeteer(s)) for the role, or come up with a different heading for Grogu (maybe "Other characters")? Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The section is "Cast and characters". Puppeteers or voice actors aren't really appropriate for him and while he has no other "formal" credit, he is a starring character since the series is centered on him and Din Djarin. There is no implication of him playing himself because we not doing "as himself" or similar wording. Other headings would also not be appropriate in this instance. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I still think listing a character along with other actors is jarring, but will defer. Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:13, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just took a look at the episode articles for this season and was surprised how poor they are. They all just have the bare minimum details copy-and-pasted and are nowhere close to meeting the WP:NTVEP guidelines. They all need to be sent to draftspace or redirected here, but I'm not sure what the best approach is. This is a similar situation to The Book of Boba Fett where I have proposed redirecting the episode articles, but I feel like there may be more interest in working on these ones considering the work that has been done on the first season's episode articles (the second season's episode articles are not as good as the first, but they're slightly better than these ones). But also, it's been a year since this season was released so maybe that is an argument for just redirecting these ones as well? Thoughts? - adamstom97 (talk) 11:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The episode articles for The Book of Boba Fett have been redirected to that article. If there isn't any interest in working on this season's episode articles in draftspace then I will go ahead and redirect those to this article as well. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Adamstom.97: You need to tag those episode pages as being under discussion for a merge. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, forgot to get those ones. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are enough reviews of these individual episodes to meet notability. I looked through the Rotten Tomatoes page for Chapter 17, and Rolling Stone, El País, Forbes, etc. are all reliable sources writing complete reviews of this episode. I have not checked the others yet, but I would be surprised if they were not notable with how much coverage this one has gotten. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whether they are notable is not in question. Just because something is notable enough for an article does not mean a stub article should be created for it and left without improvement. There has been no interest in improving the quality of these articles in a year since the season was released, they either need to be merged here so future work can focus on improving just one article instead of nine, or they need to be moved to the draftspace until they have been improved to the point where they can be moved back into the mainspace. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I oppose a merge. I thought maybe Chapter 17 might be a one-off as the series premiere, so I checked Chapters 21 and 24 and found plenty of coverage to show notability, which is indirectly pointed at in the articles with the Rotten Tomatoes link. Merging does nothing to progress us towards complete coverage of this topic. Instead the articles need to be improved one by one, with careful use of review commentary, and then with production details if they exist. There's no consensus among our community that no article is better than a stub, when the topic is notable. — Bilorv (talk) 16:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, notability is not the concern here. The issue is that there has been no interest in improving the articles for over a year. If others agree with you that these should be kept and improved rather than redirected then I am fine with moving them to the draftspace until they are improved to the standard that we expect. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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