Talk:The Passion of Joan of Arc

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Issues[edit]

I had to make one small correction: "Voices of Light" is not an operetta, it's an oratorio.

-Maus Merryjest

Is the film in the public domain, and if it is, can it be downloaded from somewhere? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Falconetti's filmography[edit]

According to IMDb, this isn't her only movie appearance, as listed in the article. It looks like the other two might be shorts, so I don't know how those qualify. Hopefully someone with more film knowledge than me can clear this up.Yourmotherisanastronaut 06:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article, it was her second movie appearance, which it was, according to imdb too, The third is just a short, and can be credited, but the article is correct in saying it was her second movie appearace, with http://imdb.com/name/nm0266029/ to cite it.

Thend 13:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)thend[reply]

No it's not. Falconetti made TWO films prior to Jeanne d'Arc; La Comtesse de Somerive (1917) and Le Clown (1917). Both films exist at the Cinemathèque Française with accession numbers #7666 and #7239 respectively. Here is a link to the poster for the first one: http://picasaweb.google.com/tinlin27/20100209#5436485254071564434 Pinikadia (talk) 02:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Pinikadia[reply]

Should we refocus this to the Wiki page on Falconetti's life and career? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsforman24 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Print found in Mental Institution[edit]

I remember seeing something to confirm that there was a print found — and in pretty good shape, all things considered — in a janitor's closet at a mental institution. I wish I could remember just where I saw it, though. Mighta been mentioned in one of the extras on the DVD.  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 21:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure I did see a reference in one of the DVD extras (released by the The Criterion Collection), but my internet access is almost exclusively at work, so I'd have trouble sourcing it that way. I will, however, check the liner notes to my copy of Voices of Light when I get home. Something may be said there on the matter. There are too many "citation needed" templates scattered throughout this article, and I'd like to be able to remove one or two of them.  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 15:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's in the Criterion Collection DVD. There are some titles that run before the movie plays that state explicitly that the source for this version of the movie was found in a mental institution in 1985.66.140.86.158 03:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
it is cited on the Criterion DVD, so maybe that "citation needed" should be removed as its sort of impossible to link to the original source? Thend 13:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Thend[reply]
I wonder, what is the original source? Not that I've decided to argue that there wasn't a print of the movie found in a weird place for it, but is there a reference that would be reasonably straightforward to cite?  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 16:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Criterion Collection Website[edit]

199.231.146.254 changed the references to a page at the Criterion Collection website from www.criterionco.com... to www.criterion.com.... Neither version works. Anyone know the actual site?  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 20:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And now Beetrstra has changed the text of my post. I've changed it back and would appreciate it if it were not remodified. — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 15:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Criterion.com is correct; they changed it recently, hence the over-enthusiastic bot. Cop 633 15:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The real "problem" (the first time around, anyway) was that neither version worked. I was annoyed at the edit here only because that point would no longer be clear.  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 17:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 08:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"master negative"[edit]

One thing puzzles me, and I apologise in advance that this is not simpler. Based on the IMDB's trivia section, I was under the impression that Dreyer shot the film, edited it, and then assembled one single master print which was destroyed before it could be exhibited. He then assembled a second version from outtakes, which was also destroyed, but not before prints were struck and exhibited worldwide. Subsequently a variety of poor-quality prints of prints of the second version were shown in theatres, until in 1981 a good-quality copy of Dreyer's reconstruction was discovered. The Bright Lights Film Journal seems to back me up on this.

This article gives the impression that Dreyer never managed to complete his outtakes reconstruction, and that a copy of the very first original version was discovered in 1981. Which is correct? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 15:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Oslo print," which was found in an Oslo insane asylum in 1981, was a copy of the complete original cut. At least, that's my understanding from the Criterion booklet that accompanies the film and the website which you linked to above. Cheers!--Abie the Fish Peddler (talk) 15:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Watch with music or without?[edit]

Should this film be watched with music or without music? I have the option of doing so in the Criterion Collection dvd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.46.212 (talk) 15:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You should ask this question at the reference desk. They love to answer such questions there, while article talk pages such as this one are only meant for discussion regarding improvement of the article. Thanks. --Saddhiyama (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's not really a question for the reference desk either. It's a matter of personal preference. However, our article does say "music for the film was played live in the theatre", though not using the score on the DVD. Why not just watch a few minutes both ways and decide for yourself? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plot[edit]

The plot is too short and needs to be expanded.--Paleface Jack (talk) 22:53, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Should we put the whole film up now that it's in the public domain?[edit]

The copyright just expired in the United States and most of the other films that just landed in the domain today like Steamboat Willie just did it. HM2021 (talk) 20:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at France's section in this article as evidence for argument I think the French film is definitely applicable for a Commons upload. All I wanna say now is, as a film buff personally and like with the Steamboat Willie upload, I would really appreciate if a copy (French or English cards are both fine IMO) with a resolution no lower than 720p be uploaded. But I don't think I or my laptop has the ability to put an entire 82-minute film here yet.
This upload I found on the Internet Archive looks good. Has a soundtrack as well. Silent or not I wouldn't mind. Carlinal (talk) 03:50, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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