Talk:Thiên Mụ Temple

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Did you know... that of Bao Quoc, Dieu De and Tu Dam, the three "national pagodas" in Huế under the Nguyen Dynasty, the latter two were vandalised by the regime of Ngo Dinh Diem, while Thien Mu (pictured) was regarded as the unofficial city symbol?

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In Vietnam, "chùa" is usually translated as "pagoda" whereas the correct term for a Buddhist place of worship is temple. The pagoda is actually a part of a temple. So I suggest correcting the names of all these Buddhist temples.Vanhoabui (talk) 15:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So I can translate "Thien Mu temple" as "Đền Thiên Mụ"?--Amore Mio (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We use the most commonly used English names for Wikipedia article titles. We usually use a Google search to tell which is most commonly used:

Thien Mu Pagoda - 48,100 hits[1]

Thien Mu Temple - 186 hits[2]

Badagnani (talk) 15:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A pagoda is the general term in the English language for a tiered tower with multiple eaves common in China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and other parts of Asia. Most pagodas were built to have a religious function, most commonly Buddhist, and were often located in or near temples. So Phuoc Duyen Pagoda of Thien Mu Temple is more correct. See Pagoda of Fogong Temple. Fogong Temple and Thien Mu Temple are quite similar.Vanhoabui (talk) 03:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's called that because it has a tiered tower. I went with the sources. For normal chua, "temple" is used. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If so, I suggest changing the name of all Vietnamese normal "chùa" from "pagoda" into "temple".Vanhoabui (talk) 04:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

they already are. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What about Tu Dam Pagoda, Bao Quoc Pagoda, Dieu De Pagoda? There are no towers at all so "temple" is more suitable.Vanhoabui (talk) 04:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As always, we use the most common English name (whether it's "correct" or not). Badagnani (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The standard English translation of the Vietnamese "chùa" is "pagoda". Chùa is the Vietnamese term for a Buddhist place of worship, and although it doesn't exactly correspond to "pagoda", it's a better fit than "temple", which refers to a general place of worship. DHN (talk) 18:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hán tự[edit]

"Vietnamese: Chùa Thiên Mụ; Hán tự: 天姥寺; also called Linh Mụ, 靈姥"

http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B9a_Thi%C3%AAn_M%E1%BB%A5 says:

"Chùa Thiên Mụ (񣘠天姥)"

pagoda # temple[edit]

Hue City is known by many famous landscapes, ancient pagoda. However, the most ancient and pretties pagoda is Thien Mu Pagoda. It is located on the Ha Khe Hill.

According to local people here, there has one elder with red clothes who appears on the hill, she said to everyone that one people will establish pagoda to converge necessary factors to strengthen the country. Therefore, this place is considered as Thien Mu Mountain. Nguyen Hoang Lord who prepared for promoting his fortune of Nguyen walked along Huong River. He saw small Ha Khe hill with the shape as a dragon and he heard of this, he built one pagoda named Thien Mu pagoda on this hill in 1961 between a river and a pine forest. It was renovated by Lord Nguyen Phuc Tan in 1665. Coming to Thien Mu pagoda, tourists will admire about its architecture because it’s wonderful architectural pagoda in Hue. The initial temple was very simply constructed. quote: http://vietnamtripadvisor.net/thien-mu-pagoda-in-hue-city-2-57.html 222.254.151.75 (talk) 06:33, 28 October 2013 (UTC) Where does this discrepancy in the Hán tự versions stem from? (vi version = authoritative?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.196.75.17 (talk) 15:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not the tallest religious building in Vietnam[edit]

I've just edited the lead section to remove the unsourced statement that the seven-storey pagoda is the "tallest religious building in Vietnam". I don't know it's exact height but I've seen it and it is indeed seven ordinary-height stories. This makes the Notre-Dame Cathedral Basilica of Saigon at least twice as tall. Jake-low (talk) 02:08, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]