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Recently, Tiandihui owner, rajkaran was arrested, and later on sent back to where he lived for thirteen years, Canada. He will be staying there until court date back in Hong Kong. He is reported to have shot 32 people of the Xiang Fa group back in December 2006. There have been fights with Tiandihui and Xiang Fa.

This was added to the end of the lede, and while it's not patent nonsense, it's pretty badly written (nobody owns Tiandihui, of course) and lacks sources. If someone can rewrite this with clear source, and the incident is significant enough to not cause undue weight, then please do so. Thanks. hateless 02:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Freemasons is far more common name than "tiandihui[edit]

Chinese Freemasons is a far more common usage 1,670,000 vs only 127,000 for "tiandihui" from google.
"tiandihui" is not English, not accepted by Oxford English Dictionary.

--Gisling (talk) 00:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC).[reply]

"Chinese Freemasons" however is a misleading title... as the Tiandihui are not actually Freemasons (as the article notes... different organizations with different traditions, goals, and history). Names do not need to be in the Oxford English Dictionary to be accepted by Wikipedia. Blueboar (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked for a source for the usage "Chinese Freemasons"... I suspect that the context is more of a description than an actual name for the organization. Blueboar (talk) 20:55, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly do not understand how google search algorithm work, if you search for chinese freemasons with no quotation, it returns all websites that contain both the word chinese and freemason, but if you search for "chinese freemasons" with quotes, google only returns 32400 results.72.53.146.220 (talk) 20:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article is totally biased from the HK point of view. The Hong Men was started in the 1600's in Shanghai or that region. Its heyday came in Shanghai in the 1930's. Then it jumped to Taiwan after 1949. The HK groups are mere offshoots of a much more pervasive and powerful group. In Taiwan, government and gangs are intertwined.

This has to do with the nature of Chinese society. Men may choose the official path, but many others join gangs and end up as powerful as officials, if not more powerful.. I know this from first hand sources.

This writer is trying to clean up the image of Triads in HK, not describe the entire organization and its history, Requires massive revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.206.88.205 (talk) 02:26, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chee Kung Tong[edit]

What's the precise connection with Chee Kung Tong which is also called "hongmen" ? 46.212.30.35 (talk) 07:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]