Talk:Tokugawa Tsunayoshi

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I had just finished revising this article and pressed Save page. The page looked good so after I went back to another article and came back to this one, it was blank. What happened?

Looks like you accidentally clicked save twice, or some weird stuff. Went to history, saw two edits from you, clicked the second one, hit edit and save. That's how you bring back an old version of the article. :) --Golbez 16:45, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I aprecciate the mini-tutorial. :)

Wow amazing! I came here to remove "WP:JCOTW tag" but found a well-developped article instead of the past stubby article! Thank you for all contributors.--Aphaea * 30 June 2005 03:50 (UTC)

Hi Aphaia, no problem! I was more than happy to edit the article. Sansom's History series is great - some of the info is from there and the rest from Jensen's Modern History. --User:Hiroshi66

Where did you find information on the mental retardation of Tsunayoshi? ( by Hiromiando 21:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Succession box[edit]

An interested editor "tweaked" the succession boxes in articles about the 15 Tokugawa shoguns; and the change became a thread topic at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan#Tokugawa shoguns. Although a corollary thread topic was posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty#Japanese shoguns, no comments or suggestions were elicited.

Aumnamahashiva substituted "regnal" succession boxes; and an plausible rationale for those edits was offered, focusing primarily on the functional sense in which the Tokugawas were hereditary autocrats. In contrast was an argument that the regnal succession box is, by definition, misapplied. Although the terms "reign" and "rule" are conventionally used by scholars, neither the Tokugawa, the Ashikaga, the Hōjō nor the Minamoto shoguns were "royalty" as that term is defined in Japanese history and culture.

Participation in this thread was limited, but I construed it as sufficient justification to restore the previous (non-regnal) succession box. This explanation and the links to soon-to-be-archived threads may prove to be helpful in the future? --Tenmei (talk) 14:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The wife did it?[edit]

Is there a corroborative source for saying Tsunayoshi was murdered by his wife, out of disgust at his homosexual leanings? This section of the entry seems to have been written with a relish verging on the homophobic. In any case, such relationships among the samurai of the time were hardly unusual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.17.0.1 (talk) 14:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]