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References

Are there any other references rather than Facebook chats or YouTube videos? Since FaceBook chats can easily be faked out Giggett (talk) 19:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Plus, they're primary sources. That's why I've tagged the article with {{Primary sources}}, because there's very little that can be traced back to independent sources. —C.Fred (talk) 19:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Dude you better not delete this page again. TDR is only a few months away and one day or another this page is still gonna be created again, and also we all know all this stuff is true, we wouldn't make up all this stuff and add it to wikipedia for no reason. There are hundreds of users on the wiki that also believe this is true and will support this info. The video of Christian Potenza on youtube confirms it's called Total Drama Reloaded and that Episode 1 is called Bigger Badder and Brutaler. Now even though that youtube video is not considered a reliable source, it still sure isn't fake. And about those facebook chat, those came from the Total Drama wiki and the person who made them was an admin and she has been trusted for over 2 years, so there is no reason she would lie to us with fake pictures. In fact several people have talked with Todd Kauffman on FaceBook and had also received the same information and also made those facebook snapshots, but the ones on here were the best I could find. Now as I said don't delete this page again, cuz if you do, in a few months you're all gonna find out that all this stuff right now is true, and if you delete it, your gonna have to spend hours to recreate all those tables and charts so you can make the page as it looks right now. Hijotee (talk) 19:51, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
We can't base the reliability of our information on the reliability of the person who supplied it. No matter who it was that gave us the pictures, they could have easily been fooled, and we don't want to create any cycles of false information being passed from one "trustable person" to the other. Also, the amount of work that will be required to create this page once we actually have reliable information is no excuse for keeping the possibly false information we have now. In fact, we could simply copy-paste the format of the charts onto a word document and wait until we have information to put it back. Soloman212 (I'm new here, so sorry if I put something in the wrong place.) (talk) 16:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Team assignments?

Is there a reliable source for the team assignments, or should they be stripped from the table? —C.Fred (talk) 19:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

In the absence of a reply, I have commented out the Elimination table section of the article. The structure is still there, but there's no need for it to be visible until we can verify the team assignments. —C.Fred (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
No one knows the team assignments, but I believe someone added all the names of the 13 contestants, while not caring on which team they were placed. It may look like the contestants were assigned to teams on the elimination table, but believe me it was all random. What I am gonna do is that I am just gonna bring back the table, but remove all the names of the contestants so that there is no confusion with the teams. The team names are confirmed, but not the names of the contestants 71.95.186.249 (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
It was like that before. The problem is, it seems to be a magnet for adding the player names also and creating linkings that don't exist yet. I still don't think we need the table visible in the article, but so long as it doesn't show team assignments that aren't made yet, I can deal with it being there. —C.Fred (talk) 20:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I think what you should do is revert any edits that involves anything with adding character names to the elimination table. I am gonna add a comment saying that no one can add names yet, and let's hope no one adds the names of the contestants until they are confirmed 71.95.186.249 (talk) 21:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

13 contestants?

I was looking at the links at the bottom of the page on Total Drama Reloaded and there was a picture that you can briefly see the contestants and I'm pretty sure I seen more than 13 contestants. Here's the link: http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/File:RadioactiveRats.jpg 67.186.116.240 (talk) 05:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I looked, and I counted eight bodies in the row of Radioactive Rats. However, the person on the right was Chef. If Chris is in the photo also, that leaves six Rats. It's reasonable, based on the number of feet above, for there to be 13 contestants. That said, there are two problems: first, there's a lot of synthesis going into that number. Second, an image of dubious origin on another Wiki is not a reliable source. Unfortunately, the Indian Television story is now a dead link, so I can't go back to see whether it included a contestant count or not. —C.Fred (talk) 06:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
There are 9 people in the bottom row, and 8 on the top. I saw 7 Radioactive Rats in the bottom, and 6 others on the top. It seems like there are 8 contestants on the top, but 2 are Chris and Chef and they do not count. You only count the ones that have a text on their feet, which are only 6. As for the Rats, they also have Chris and Chef on the right, but there are only 7 rats. So 7 + 6 = 13 contestants. 71.95.186.249 (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok.. thanks! I know my math already so you didn't have to show me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 (talk) 00:43, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Elimination table

Why are you deleting the elimination table like that? You can't just delete it. 71.95.186.249 (talk) 18:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

It's getting way too much speculation Giggett (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
What's speculation? I don't get what you mean 71.95.186.249 (talk) 18:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
yeah dude i saw that you deleted a lot of stuff on the TDR page, why are you doin' this Hijotee (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Can someone tell me what's happening with the article. Why all of the sudden a bunch of stuff got removed? We want the table back! 71.95.186.249 (talk) 19:04, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
  • For a while, the elimination table was sitting in a framework state, with just the list of teams, no players. That was acceptable. Right before Giggett deleted it, it had been filled in with the following information, none of which was supported by reliable sources:
  1. The team assignments for each player
  2. The outcome of the first three episodes
The summary below the edit box is clear: "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." With no way to verify the claims, he was very correct in removing it.
Let me be blunt: Any material about unaired episodes, which does not cite a reliable source, is subject to deletion. That includes rumours, gossip, speculation, predictions, best guesses, and "What I think will happen"s. That also includes anything backed up only by a blog or Twitter post, with limited exceptions for verified Twitter accounts and blogs belonging to show producers. The Total Drama Wiki is never, by itself, a reliable source.
If you want to guess about what will happen on the show, or spread the latest gossip, do it on another website. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and WP:Verifiability is a requirement for material in articles. —C.Fred (talk) 19:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah you see, we can't just bring back the elimination table if everyone is gonna come and add loads of unconfirmed stuff to it. Even if we remove the unsourced information, it's still gonna come back, even when we are not watching (ex. the nights or early mornings). It's better if we remove the table for a little while until we get a more reliable source (ex. another trailer on televison, Cake's website releases a digital flipbook, or another reliable website releasing an article about this season) so then everyone can start adding all that info again. Until then, like Heather said on the TDWT trailer Just you wait! Giggett (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Total Drama no longer "Reloaded"

I been hearing a lot of people say that TDR no longer stands for "Total Drama Reloaded", but instead the "R" now stands for something else. I knew they were going to do this, cuz they always decide to change the names just like they did with "The Musical". Reloaded didn't just seem like a good name. So yeah, it's no longer Reloaded, so maybe we should start thinking of a future name change on the articles. Or at least remove the "Reloaded" word, since it's been confirmed to no longer being Reloaded Hijotee (talk) 20:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Team assignments and episode 1 status

We've only barely gotten a sufficiently reliable source for the character names. (Tangent: That source calls one character B, not Silent B.) Where's the source showing which teams the players have been assigned to and that they're all still in the game after the first episode? —C.Fred (talk) 16:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

I removed the column that showed the status for the first episode, but as for the team assignments, I think everyone on the wiki already knows that the picture we got on the "Characters" section confirms the four people that are on the Radioactive Rats (Sam, B, Zoey, and Lightning), by then we knew the other three that are on the Rats by this picture. And then we just filled in the blanks by getting the remaianing contestants and putted them on the Mutant maggots. Really I think you should trust us. We were right with the names, way before we got this confirmation yesterday, so I'm pretty sure we are right with the team assignments also. Giggett (talk) 17:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
As financial prospectuses say, past performance is not an indicator of future results. Again, where's the reliable source showing which teams the players have been assigned to? A black-and-white photo of a production memo isn't really reliable, especially without clear sourcing of the photo. —C.Fred (talk) 17:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay then, I'll remove the team names for now, until we get that source. But you will see that we were right the whole time. Giggett (talk) 18:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
  • I see the team names are assigned to players again. What's the source for the assignment? —C.Fred (talk) 15:21, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Characters Section

The section entitled "Characters" is entirely made up of speculation, subjective sentences, and repetitive and clumsy wording. It's in need of a good scrubbing, but I'm having trouble discerning specifically what needs removal. →Twentydragon 09:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

There was a press release linked as a source which gave little blurb descriptions. Of course, if you check the edit history, there's probably a revert I did because somebody copied those descriptions exactly, but that should be a marker for finding the ref. —C.Fred (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Okay. All I meant to say is that the text needs some proofreading and rewriting (i.e. the word "prank" being used three times in a single sentence). →Twentydragon 07:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
The characters' descriptions need to be deleted. All that we have proof of is the two-three word description of each. Unless there's a source confirming these, they'll be removed. Dakotacoons (talk) 21:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I know that wew only got two or three words from the source, but by how the characters looked and by what we know, we intervilated the descriptions and expanded them using our logic Hijotee (talk) 23:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Zoey/Dawn confusion

Ok people, Zoey is the blonde one, Dawn is the redhead. Please correct the pages, as everytime I do it, people think it's vandalism --75.109.27.250 (talk) 15:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok will do, but can you provide a reference or some sort of source? Also, it might be because you don't have an account... Soloman212 (I'm new here, so sorry if I put something in the wrong place.) (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Zoey has been confirmed to be the "indie chick". The pale mystery girl has an indie fashion. Dawn is labeled the "moonchild". Despite what people think, a moonchild is not someone pale like the moon. A moonchild is a person who performs witchcraft, which would make the pale girl Zoey, and the Redhead Dawn.--75.109.27.250 (talk) 18:40, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I fixed the Zoey and Dawn confusion. NOBODY PUT THE PALE GIRL AS DAWN. --75.109.27.250 (talk) 00:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Regard this, Zoey is the "New Heather", while Dawn replaces Molly, a supposed character for TDR. Therefore, Dawn is ther pale blond chick, while Zoey is the "doll" who resembles Heather from TDI. inheritant1994, August 7, 2011, 9:38

Article width

I attempted a change that will apply a fixed width to all the Total Drama articles, which means that tables will no longer be squished or overstretched, and the content will look the same on all screens sizes, no matter how small or big. Of course, this is only a test, so I am only going to apply this change to this article for the weekend, and see if anyone likes it or not. Feel free to discuss this change and see if we should do anything to make it better or just leave it how it is. We all know that the new iPads and iPhones have a really small screen that requre scrolling to view large pages, so it won't bug to apply this all the other small screens that are the same size. As I said, feel free to discuss and if we decide to leave it how it is, then I will revert the change Sunday night. There are many upsides to this change, but there are also some downsides, but know that this change is only temporary until we decide what to do. Giggett (talk) 22:45, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if you only tinkered with the charts, but on my screen size, (1280 x 800), the charts fit perfectly in the screen while the beginning stretches out of the width. Soloman212 (And my pet tortoise.) (talk) 22:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah the tables aren't really big on this article, but on The World Tour article, we have tables that go up to 1500px, so the tables might still fit on small screens here. One upside that I like to this, is that the infoboxes get organized header cells and splits the content more like a table, unlike how it was before. I've set the width to fit on an HD 1920px x 1080px resolution, but also know that we are all going up to HD pretty quickly, you know, it is the future. Giggett (talk) 22:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
We don't need that much width on this article, because most table widths are designed to fit on a 1280px screen, so I adjusted the whole article to fit on an 1280px screen. Smaller screens below 1280px will have to scroll, that is the upside, but the downside is that larger screens will have a blank space on the right, but eh, this article doesn't really need that much overstretching. Hijotee (talk) 23:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
"Smaller screens…will have to scroll" is unacceptable. Scrolling to accomodate viewing a table is one thing; however, those users should not be majorly inconvenienced when trying to read the article. —C.Fred (talk) 23:18, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
It is not really that much scrolling they have to do, just like 200px. Really who really has a 1024px screen these days, most people already upgraded to at least 720p. The only ones that are left with smaller screens are the ones with iPads and iPhones, but those are used to scrolling Hijotee (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Not that much scrolling? We're talking every line of the article text, aren't we? Like I said, unacceptable. —C.Fred (talk) 23:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
i like how you wrapped the whole article on a table to set article styles, but as for the width, i say we just stick with the tables —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.186.249 (talk) 23:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
You may have a reason, the only reason why the fixed width was applied was mostly so the tables can be seen the same throughout everywhere, I really don't care about article paragraphs or the small tables, so I have reverted the change Hijotee (talk) 20:13, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

This season

This season has been inactive for quite some time (despite vandalism). There hasn't been any new information for months now and even though summer just began, the article is still in its framework state, and has been since January. Anyone know when this season is gonna air? It should of started right now, but now I don't know. Giggett (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

lets talk about it will air in sebtember [sorry i dont kown how to spell hard words im 12] and pale is dawn red head zoey ps dont edit the main page agian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.236.122 (talk) 16:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you are right Giggett (talk) 16:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Ezekiel in TDROTI

I've been kinda wondering about this for awhile. Since Todd's statement about "Ezekiel making a cameo" was sarcasm (which I did find a little rude and wise since Ezekiel is my favorite character, although I can understand he was getting annoyed with all the questions), do you think that's a possible hint saying that Ezekiel will NOT be making a cameo, or should we just say it hasn't been confirmed yet? I kinda wouldn't be surprised anyway if Zeke didn't cameo, since he's not one of the "popular characters" and most likely due to that bad injury he got last season. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 15:33, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

He will probably cameo, but as you said it hasn't been officialy confirmed so I removed it Giggett (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

"Facebook" Spelling

Could someone please fix wherever it says "FaceBook"? It's spelled "Facebook" One word. Not two. Please fix this :) -- 75.109.27.250 (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

KK Giggett (talk) 18:59, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Why does everyone not like cameron? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.236.122 (talk) 20:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Where did you hear that everyone doesn't like Cameron? Giggett (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Everyone eliminates him after Staci, how do they know he could be the winner? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.236.122 (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't know if you are from the future or if you have seen the whole season already, but where I am from in 2011, no one knows who gets eliminated first or if Cameron is even gonna win or not Giggett (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Total Drama's 4th season airing in the U.S

Ok, what's the source that Revenge of the Island is even airing on Cartoon Network next month? I have not seen ONE cartoon network trailer for it other than that little teaser they made last November, and if it WAS airing next month in America, don't you think we would see some CN trailers by now? 24.181.236.186 (talk) 21:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I think we all know that it is going to air in September. There hasn't been an official announcement yet, but for now we just added a date where it will most likely air. That date has drastically changed several times over the months, and it may change again, but for now just leave it since it may or may not change again once more time passes by. Giggett (talk) 16:41, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
lets tell the makers that they could please make it air on september 1 and canada august 31 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.83.73.155 (talk) 13:20, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Umn... I think it is confirmed that it will air in September in the U.S., but as for Canada, all we know is that it's airing in the fall. Yes, the fall is also in September, but not August 31. Giggett (talk) 13:32, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Dawn and Zoey?

There seems to be a lot of editing activity lately since I added the new full cast image. A lot of editors seems to be swaping the names "Dawn" and "Zoey" for no reason. I can't seem to make them stop. Is there a reason for this name swap. Is there something I am not understanding? If no reason is given I will continue to serve this as vandalism. Giggett (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Backing up a step, what's the source we're using to tell identify Dawn and Zoey currently? Let's make sure that's a reliable source; then, anybody wanting to change will need to furnish a better/more recent source to support the change. —C.Fred (talk) 19:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
There is no source. That's the problem. Those 2 are the most confusing to identify since they are both girls and their personalities given (Zoey an "indie chick" and Dawn a "moonchild") don't make any sence.
Here are the two sources that say their descriptions. Giggett (talk) 19:06, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
So, the text description in the article is also unsourced? "Zoey is a reassuring blonde girl and a moon child." If we don't know Zoey is blonde, does that text need to come out? And do we need to caption the picture with Dawn/Zoey for both of them or otherwise footnote that the identity is uncertain? —C.Fred (talk) 19:13, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
An anonymous editor has changed the sentence above to say that Dawn is the blonde, so at least the article isn't self-contradictory right now. —C.Fred (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I already tagged that section for having unsourced content, but don't expect that section to stay like that for long, since the season is going to air in about a month and also that we may start to see more advertising pretty soon. So I wouldn't delete it just yet. Giggett (talk) 19:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

So....

What's the current status of when Revenge of the Island? It says it looks as though it starts in late '11 and ends in early '12, but to me, that more sounds like you guys are trying to say it's not airing in '11 at all. Which one sounds more accurate? 24.181.236.186 (talk) 00:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

The season will start on late '11 and since it is not starting before early October, then there is no way that the season finale can still air in 2011. Since early October is only 13 weeks away from the end of the year, any start dare after that will have an end date in 2012. Really, those dates change all the time. I remember when it used to say Summer 2011. For now I say just don't bother. Giggett (talk) 05:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
So what they can air up to the 11th episode then once the holidays come along they can air the finale in early January.Simple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.167.30 (talk) 21:53, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Well that's BS that they had to re-do some of the story lines. They could just not air the episodes in Japan, just like how some episodes of 6teen had to be banned in OUR country cause it was only suitible for Canada. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 03:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, leaving all the episodes how they were, would of been offensive to everyone, not just Japan. Also, TD would of lost ratings, so there is a reason why they are re-modifying the whole season again. Also, forget what I said above, I think it's confirmed that TDROTI is not airing in 2011 at all. Giggett (talk) 07:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

new pics and promos and maybe a new trailler and canada downloading the fist episode to usa and cuples and it airing in usa

can you find pics and a trailler and the fist episode and promos please and if you can put them on this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdroti (talk • contribs) 15:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't do that. This is not the Total Drama Wiki, but you can sure find all of that stuff here. Giggett (talk) 20:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Can nobody please not fill the summary for each episode until it airs in Canada?, and Which idiot decided to air all of the episodes in Frances first? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.126.205 (talk) 09:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't matter who airs the episodes first, as soon as they air, we are all allowed to post episode summaries since the information has been released. The only reason for an episode to not have a summary yet is if absolutely no one has any idea what the episode is about. Usually this is because an episode has not yet aired, but once it has, like the first episodes in France, people will start to post summaries to the article. Wikipedia will always contain spoilers for some people in some countries, so if you do not want to get spoiled since the episode has not yet aired in your country, then just don't read the article. Easy as that, but please do not remove content just because you don't want to read it. A lot of people still do. Giggett (talk) 10:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

U.S. Airdate

There is this one user who keeps adding that the U.S airdate is on February 2, 2012. I have not yet seen a source or an announcement for this airdate, so I reverted the edit, but the user keeps adding it back. Now I cannot remove the airdate anymore without breaking the three-revert rule, so I am asking, where is your source for the U.S. airdate? Giggett (talk) 18:52, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Has it actually been confirmed? I mean it says December 26, 2011 it was confirmed, but I see no source. Any backup? 24.181.236.186 (talk) 05:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Well I took out the U.S Airdate. There is no source for it and I have looked everywhere and could not find ANYTHING. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 21:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thank you for removing it. I guess there was no official confirmation, just one user who made up the airdate, possibly based off rumors. Giggett (talk) 22:33, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
No problem. It's a real bummer though because I don't feel like waiting all the way till summer time (when they usually show it in America) just for a very short season. Oh well. I will be honest, though.... I have heard that by 2012, all existance of Total Drama was supposed to be taken off Cartoon Network. I don't know if this a rumor or if it's still going on or not. Either way.... we'll just have to find out when the time comes. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 23:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Source Found: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Total-Drama-Revenge-of-the-Island/133487533373134 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.92.132 (talk) 02:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Oooo! Well I guess it's set, just gonna show this link to the guys at the TD Wiki to see if they think it's legit before I add it to the article. Just want to make sure. :) Giggett (talk) 03:08, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm guessing you guys are probably already aware by now, but that page is definetly not reliable, and I have not seen ANY Cartoon Network ads for the season this month. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 15:58, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Old contenstants, come back!

Bridgette, Lindsay, Gwen, Duncan, Harold, Heather, Izzy, Owen and Ezekiel appear on the cameo in the episodes of this season, but some of them (my favorite characters), also will return, perhaps in the fifth season.Dorem11 (talk) 15:36, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, they all do cameo, but it is still unknown whether the original contestants will compete again in the fifth season or if there is going to be a fifth season at all. Giggett (talk) 15:40, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Erin Tapley said that some contestants will return because of their contracts. --AlarconHills 22:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Mixed characters

Is it really neccesarry to note that the characters are mixed from the old cast (if they are)? Because for my opinion, that kind of seems like an insult to the writers. Like, to me, it's basicly saying "The new characters are unoriginal", which I would imagine you guys aren't trying to do of course, but if you think deeper into that sentence, it can sound like that. And to be honest, it's their show anyway, so they can do what they want. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 00:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

It's not an insult, there are just so many similarities from the original contestants to the new contestants that we like to list them all, and besides, maybe they kept some characteristics from the original cast and added them to the new cast, that way fans can still have a feeling of the original contestants while watching the new contestants. For example, Dawn still looks a lot like Gwen, so any Gwen fans may like Dawn in this new season, rather than hating the new season overall since Gwen is not in the show. So you can see where I am getting here, it's good to make the new characters have some similarities to the old ones, that way the new characters can still have some fans, instead of making them all completely different and original but not having much fans. Really, having an entire new cast was not a good idea, but making the new cast look like the old cast might make the season liked by fans. Giggett (talk) 01:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Which sources are we citing about the similarities? —C.Fred (talk) 02:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Another similarity is Zoey and Heather. They both have (or had) short hair, laid back in a similar way. They both took down the main antagonists , right to the point where they ended up in a robot suit. They were also the highest ranking females in their generation. They ranked 3rd in a season. --76.170.193.67 (talk) 18:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
No. Zoey or Heather was ever in a robot suit. Only Alejandro was. 173.169.56.34 (talk) 00:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I meant Zoey and Heather putting Scott and Alejandro, respectively, in a robot suit.--AlarconHills 05:48, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

French

Why is there so little info if France has already shown every episode? 174.20.147.113 (talk) 19:03, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I think its because the episode names and the eliminations being spoiled. It seems they are only going by everything in the Canadian version. 173.169.56.34 (talk) 00:03, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Is there any way to find the french episode info? 174.20.150.157 (talk) 21:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Harold

So Harold doesn't cameo after all? Really? That's a bummer. I could have sworn though I remember seeing some note about Harold cameoing, unless that was the episode where DJ actually cameos (because I remember at the time DJ was said to not have cameod). 24.181.236.186 (talk) 00:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

There were some early rumors that Harold was supposed to cameo in Episode 11, but it turned out that DJ cameoed in that episode instead. So yeah, Harold does not cameo at all, and his voice actor (Brian Froud) only voices Sam in TDRI, and not Harold. Giggett (talk) 02:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Dang. If Harold were reading this right now, all he could say would be "GOSH!". Ah well. 24.181.236.186 (talk) 01:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Well... looks like it's official

Revenge of the Island will be airing in America during summer. :) http://www.animationmagazine.net/tv/cartoon-network-reveals-dynamic-new-2012-13-slate/?fb_ref=facebook&fb_source=timeline 24.181.236.186 (talk) 23:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's about time! :D Looks like Cartoon Network kept their summer airdates after all as we thought, even though TDRI was ready by January. This is a good thing though, cuz the Americans still get to see TDRI during their summer vacation as originally expected in 2011. Even though TDRI is now an year late in the U.S. :P Giggett (talk) 03:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Countries in the airdate table

I just removed "Africa English" from the airdates table, in large part because it's not a country.

Canada pretty much has to be in the table, as the country of origin. What other countries should, or shouldn't, be in the table—and more importantly, what policy or project guideline justifies the inclusion/exclusion? —C.Fred (talk) 00:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Well back in July 2011 when we cleaned-up all the Total Drama articles, we all agreed upon on only including English speaking countries in the tables. The first country is Canada because it's the country of origin. The United States is there because it is a second country that speaks English, and the third country is any other English country that airs the show; in this case, Australia. I don't think South Africa belongs in the table since that country is not a full-English speaking country, so therefore we shoud just leave everything as it is. Giggett (talk) 02:38, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Fancruft

Listing the cameos of characters from the previous seasons of Total Drama and creating a section about team switches and whatnot seems very much like fancruft. Being that a persistent issue with the Total Drama articles are in-universe style descriptions and the addition of information that only interests close fans of the show, I'm inclined to simply delete those two sections outright, but I had the feeling I had better put something on the talk page first. So, I'm going to wait a little bit before going ahead with the edit, unless anyone has an objection (and can come up with a legitimate reason why it shouldn't be deleted). WANI ♪♫♪ 23:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so I might agree that there is too much information on the cameos, so go ahead and delete that if you want, but we should at least state which nine characters are the ones who cameo, just for informational purposes. As of the team switches, those have been bugging me for quite a while now and I see no reason for why to keep listing them, so go ahead and delete that too, but as for listing which teams the characters are on, I think we should keep that. Giggett (talk) 22:09, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I believe that simply saying, "The season featured thirteen new competitors, but characters from the previous seasons of Total Drama make frequent cameos within Revenge of the Island," or something to that effect, would be the best way to approach this. The article shouldn't be too specific about the past contestants, since...well...this season is about the new characters, so the past ones aren't really relevant enough to warrant a list of their cameos. To look up specific character cameos, people can either go to the Total Drama Wiki, or actually watch the show. As for the "Teams" section, the part in the "Format" section that states "the thirteen campers are placed onto two teams, the Toxic Rats and the Mutant Maggots" is more than enough about teams, especially since you guys have that List of Total Drama characters article which already probably mentions original teams, team switches, etc. WANI ♪♫♪ 00:12, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
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