Talk:Traffic guard

This article was nominated for deletion on 16 September 2021. The result of the discussion was keep.

Name[edit]

What are the most common names for people performing these duties in the English-speaking world? In the US, flaggers are used for construction, maintenance and incident management.--Triskele Jim (talk) 22:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The US name "flagger" is more a slang term and also means a "object" not a person. The title "Traffic Guard" came from the old times where guards of the military or law enforcement was often used to guide traffic. The title "Crossing Guard" had it's "guard" title in the name still. In the US has fewer guards and lost it's name to slang and construction was so far a part that law enforcement didn't had time for that duty. We still use "Traffic Guard" title in some nations because they are dress like guards still and have duties as guards. The US still has Traffic Guards but in law enforcement they are call Traffic Officer. A lot of Police Departments came from small military guards in cities. Then the name goes officer to guard again. All the history of the names comes back to a guard who guides traffic. "Traffic Guard" Rasseru (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flagger is not really a slang term - it is in general usage in official US work zone traffic control manuals like the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices. It replaced the term "flagman" when women started working in construction. "Crossing guard" almost exclusively applies to people that assist children too young to cross on their own get to school. --Triskele Jim (talk) 17:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't understand. All the job titles came from one term. It came from the job title "guard". The guard did all these jobs at one time... Flagman, Crossing Guard, Traffic Guard, and etc was all one job at one time. "Flagger" means a object and action term in the dictionary or in many dictionaries I can't find the term. Flagger more likely came from flagman. Also the Wikipedia closed the articles under the term "flagger" because it was slang to most of world. It not a worldly term used by English language. Even that the term is used in a official US manual and on road signs. It is oddly a slang term for that construction job only. No, other places uses "flagger" as term and will not be a official term in globalize on this job.

Rasseru (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 September 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved, withdrawing nomination. Consensus is that "flagger" is an almost US exclusive term, and while "traffic controller" or "traffic officer" are more commonly used internationally in the English speaking world, there are issues of ambiguity with both terms. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 17:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Traffic guard → Flagger – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The sources on this occupation (especially in the United States) refer to it as a "flagger" (e.g. [1] [2] [3]). Top Google search results of "traffic guard" also refer to a brand of bollards or a fraud prevention software, which makes it less precise than flagger. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I also understand this might be WP:GLOBAL, and welcome any other suggestions for naming this article as long as it's supported by independent, reliable sources. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:31, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now, I've never heard the term "Flagger" and the current title looks more like a WP:COMMONALITY version, as the nom notes its "especially in the United States". Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:49, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Crouch, Swale: What term do you use to refer to this occupation? I acknowledge that the term I'm proposing is very US-centric, but I'm struggling to find WP:RS that utilize the term "traffic guard" and am open to suggestions for a common name that's independently sourced. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would probably use the term "traffic officer" but that term goes to police so the term "traffic guard" seems more appropriate. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:47, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I see no problem with the current title. We'd probably be more likely to call the role a traffic controller (which redirects to Traffic control (disambiguation)) or traffic management officer in the UK. I suspect every country has its own terms. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:44, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:ENGVAR. 162 etc. (talk) 17:25, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.