Talk:Tri-state area
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Rationale for double listings?[edit]
I haven't examined the list thoroughly for more duplications, but I see listings here for both
with no discernable reason for why both permutations found their way into the list. Any ideas? Tomertalk 02:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Fixed Up[edit]
The article is now fixed up. Anyone have PD pictures of tri-state markers? Nationalparks 18:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Virginia-Washington, D.C.-Maryland[edit]
There are a couple of problems with this "Tri-state area":
- First, there are two tripoints between these regions. A northern one near Little Falls on the Potomac and a southern point just south of the Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge. The list only counts it as a single tripoint.
- Second, these points are (usually) under water. Virginia ends at the low water mark on its side of the Potomac River so these should be considered water tripoints, not points on land.
- Third, D.C. is not a state. Should these points be in an article called "Tri-state area" at all?
--dm (talk) 04:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- First, agree entirely, I put another note in.
- Second, the reference lists these under the land points (as opposed to the water ones), so that's why I've put it there.
- Third, I agree, but at the start of the article it says three states or holdings meet at one point. So that and the reference are why I put it there.
- Nationalparks 06:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Tri-state area/ region/ tri-point[edit]
I'm thoroughly confused by the title of this article. It is almost exclusively about tri-points as geographical curiosities rather than the area or region around them. Another article, "Tri-State Region," deals exclusively (mistakenly, IMO) with the Greater New York Met Region. That area is always referred to by its residents as "The Tri-State Area" and never "The Tri-State Region." There might be other metro areas that call themselves "Tri-State Area", but I don't think any use "Tri-State Region." There's an interesting discussion over at "Tri-State Region" that you guys should check out.
This article has nothing to do with either concept. I propose that this article's title, "Tri-State Area," be a general (not disambig) page discussing those metro regions which use the specific term "Tri-State Area" in the US (if in fact there are areas outside of NY metro that use the term) with links to the specific tri-state areas. I haven't really researched the topic, but if it turns out that "Tri-State Area" is only used to refer to the greater NY metro area, then it should re-direct to that page.
"Tri-State Region" should then be a page about the general topic of metro areas spread across parts of three states, regardless of what they call themselves.
Finally, this page should be titled "United States Tri-points" or something similiar, since, as I said, it is not about the regions at all.Armandtanzarian 21:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
"Chicago's tri-state region includes Illinois, Indiana, and Wisconsin and is commonly referred to as Chicagoland." no one calls it that. ever.
permuted list[edit]
The list isn't really that useful as a sortable table - I've made a possible alternative, shown below.—Random832 21:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
What's so 'well-known' -- ??[edit]
"Another well known tri-state region is located where New York meets Massachusetts and Connecticut."
I lived and traveled in this area for years - what in the world is so 'well-known' - ? There are perhaps 362 people living in the whole area!!! :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robfwoods (talk • contribs) 17:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Land/Water tripoint[edit]
The tri-point of Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota is listed as a water tri-point in the article. A quick look with Google maps reveals that the tri-point is located several meters west of the river in that area and a stone monument is clearly visible on land at the tri-point. 68.93.195.102 (talk) 12:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
This article is about Tri-state areas[edit]
This article is about regions of the USA known as Tri-state areas. There are not many of these: they include the New York tri-state area, the Dubuque tri-state area, the Pittsburgh tri-state area. Not all of them are associated with state boundary tripoints.
It is not about tripoints formed by intersections between state boundaries. There is another article on Tripoints, and if someone wants to add an exhaustive list of state boundary tripoints of the USA to that article, so be it.
I'm going to largely re-write the introduction, which is currently a mess. Ordinary Person (talk) 15:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed heartily. The title and much of the contents of this article do not match at all. The term in the title is "area" not "point", so why did the article evolve into a rambling discussion of tripoints? I may just cut out all the blather about tripoints as being incorrect in scope outright. oknazevad (talk) 19:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Should we move all the tripoint material to the Tripoint article? Currently that article is only about international tripoints. Nareek (talk) 15:08, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- I moved all the tripoint content to List of tripoints of U.S. states, which previously redirected to this article. I'll add a link to that list in the main Tripoint article.Rexodus (talk) 00:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
What about PA-NJ-DE?[edit]
Don't Philadelphia newscasters refer to these 3 as the tri-state area? Or is my memory faulty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.121.230 (talk) 12:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
NY-NJ-CT or NY-NJ-PA?[edit]
A user has added a census map to argue in favor of Pennsylvania's inclusion. As the map shows, one part of PA is indeed part of the New York-Newark-Jersey City Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), while no CT counties are included. That MSA is part of the larger New York-Newark Combined Statistical Area (CSA), which includes three counties in CT along with a second county in PA. Since the MSA includes parts of three states, and the CSA includes parts of four states, it might seem logical for the term "tri-state area" to align with the MSA. But the CSA's two PA counties (Pike and Monroe) have a combined population of approximately 227,000 people, or about 1% of the total CSA. The three CT counties (Fairfield, New Haven, and Litchfield) have a combined population of approximately 2,007,000 people, or about 8.5% of the CSA. There's no reason to assume the informal term "tri-state area" should align with any official boundary, whether MSA or CSA, but it's clear that there are a lot more CT residents living in the loosely-defined NYC area than PA residents. Rexodus (talk) 03:37, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think the issue here is that the specific bulletin point is the "new york metro area", which, as you mention, refers to a three or four state area, as explicit in the fact that the bullet point links to an article describing the MSA. I think reverting this article to the point before where PA was completely removed, while pointing out colloquial use often involves CT, makes most sense. 2601:647:5F80:1D20:F8FB:40FA:7EFF:A0A0 (talk) 02:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Citation disparity[edit]
Citations needed for claim that "New York metropolitan area, which sometimes includes areas in Pennsylvania as a fourth state." There are six different citations for the NY tri state area, which is more than enough, and not a single citation for PA's dubious inclusion. 168.91.195.32 (talk) 13:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Citation added. For context, the mention of PA is based on the Census Bureau's definition of the New York/Newark/Jersey City MSA. Further back in this article's history, that definition was used to give precedence to a NY-NJ-PA interpretation over the much more common NY-NJ-CT interpretation. Rexodus (talk) 19:36, 26 September 2023 (UTC)