Talk:Tropical Storm Julio (2002)

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June 14, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed
March 4, 2024	Good article reassessment	Delisted

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tropical Storm Julio (2002)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: 12george1 (talk · contribs) 23:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Tropical Storm Julio in 2002 was a weak and short-lived tropical storm that made landfall along the southern Mexican coast." - Why is there no link to the season article or landfall (this term isn't linked until the beginning of the next paragraph).
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"An area of convection and disturbed weather organized into a" - Wikilink convection
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"The storm soon weakened into a tropical depression and later on September 16, it rapidly dissipated over Mexico." - September 16?!?
- Shoot. Fixed :P Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"In the latter city, many trees were brought down" - I think you should find a substitute for "were brought down". Maybe "were felled", "fell down", "were uprooted", etc.
- Nah, I like it. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"The origins of Tropical Storm Julio are from a persistent monsoon-like area of convection" ---> "The origins of Tropical Storm Julio were from a persistent monsoon-like area of convection"
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"(possibly related to Hurricane Isidore) that that was situated off the coast of Central America on September 21." - Can you be more specific about which coast? After all, it has multiple coasts. Also there is a double word in there.
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"the National Hurricane Center (NHC) reported that the disturbance had developed into a tropical depression about 100 mi (160 km) southwest of Acapulco." - You should mention the number of the tropical depression (Thirteen-E) because this was in 2002, not like in the 70s where you have to guess what the number was.
- The source does not say it was declared TD13E. FTR, TD's in the EPAC were number in the 70's . YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Discussion number 1 does.--12george1 (talk) 00:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"At 0000 UTC on September 26," - Why is UTC not wikilinked?
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"while also reaching its minimum pressure of 1,000 mb (30 inHg)" - Wikilink barometric pressure and use |lk= on the convert template so then it links mb and inHg.
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"At peak, the storm was centered just west-northwest of Lázaro Cárdenas. After turning northwest, Julio made landfall along the coast of Southwestern Mexico." - Combine this and add some more details. For example, "Shortly thereafter, Julio turned northwestward and made landfall along the coast of Southwestern Mexico near Lázaro Cárdenas at the same intensity." Btw, "Lázaro Cárdenas" isn't a wikilink to the city, it is actually to the President of Mexico from 1934 to 1940.
- Random, but fixed. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Midday on September 26, the storm was downgraded into a tropical depression." - I understand what you mean by "midday", but other people might not. Just say "At 1200 UTC on September 26"
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
"Julio dissipated near Manzanillo later that day instead." - The word "instead" isn't really necessary
Why is there no rainfall image?
- I refuse to upload them. I hate messing with images (I guess I have imagephobia). YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - No uploading involved. That is just a link to the image on WikiCommons.--12george1 (talk) 00:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Upon becoming a tropical cyclone, tropical cyclone warnings and watches were issued for a portion of the Pacific coast of Mexico;[3] a tropical storm warning was issued from Zihuatanejo to Punta San Telma while a tropical storm watch was in effect from Punta San Telma to Manzanillo." - It would be best to change the semi-colon to a period. Remember to make capitalize that "a" after the reference because it will be a new sentence. A date should probably be mentioned somewhere in here. Also, "while a tropical storm watch was in effect from Punta San Telma to Manzanillo." sounds like a tropical storm watch was already in effect (even before the storm formed). Change "was in effect" to "was put into effect".
- No need to split them up IMO. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"On September 26, once the storm had moved inland and weakened to a depression," - That is oddly worded. My suggestion would be "Once the storm moved inland and weakened to a depression on September 26,"
- No. I tweaked the wording slightly
"Zihuatanejo reported 40 mph (65 km/h) winds, with gusts up to 50 mph (80 km/h)" ---> "Zihuatanejo reported sustained winds of 40 mph (65 km/h) and gusts up to 50 mph (80 km/h)"
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Tropical Storm Julio was responsible for heavy rains to Zinhuatanejo" - Did you mean "Zihuatanejo" instead of "Zinhuatanejo"?
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
"Throughout Colima, many rivers overflowed its banks" - "its banks" to "their banks"
- Good call. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
"On the outskirts of the Taxaco, situated 95 mi (155 km) inland, a school bus carrying 40 kids flipped over," - Why is the city's distance inland relevant? It might be more helpful to find out which state the city is in.
- Since I don't wikilink, it is my explanation of the term.
"An estimated 700 ha (1,700 acre) of crops were lost because of the storm." - Acres should be first, so then follows the same pattern as the other units of measure.
- Good call. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Parts of Guerrero were later declared a disaster areas." - Not sure what you meant to say here. "declared a disaster area"? "declared as disaster areas"?
The former. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"However, the city of Zihuaranejo was quickly cleaned up proceeding the storm." - "proceeding" should probably be changed to "following". Also, did you mean "Zinhuatanejo" instead of "Zihuaranejo"?
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
Why is the title of reference #3 "Tropical Storm Julio Julio Discussion 1" and not "Tropical Depression Thirteen-E Discussion 1"?
- Barbecue I am the worst person on the planet. It's fixed now. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
On reference #7, the names of the authors are Brian Jarvinen and Hugh Cobb.
- Added. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On reference #8, you need to add about the "United States National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration" being the work. Also there is no such thing as the "Hydrometeorological Prediction Center" anymore, it is the "Weather Prediction Center".
- It was HPC at the time, but did the first. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
Reference #9 and #11 should have {{es icon}} because they are both in Spanish.
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 23:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I am going to pass this article now and list it as a GA.--12george1 (talk) 00:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

Tropical Storm Julio (2002)[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Procedural delist. Noah, AA^Talk 12:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus for a merge at Talk:2002 Pacific hurricane season. Noah, AA^Talk 12:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.