Talk:Umm ash Shauf

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Is this Khirbet Oumm Ech-Choukof, in Guerin, 1869, v.1, p.151? --Huldra (talk) 22:56, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Most probably not, that is down by Ashkelon. Also, it is not the one Umm es Shukaf, noted as ruined by Robinson and Smith, 1841, vol 3, pp. 9 -10, that one is down by Dura, Hebron . Huldra (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC\

@Huldra: What about Oumm Saffa, Sam. II, 109? Zero^talk 23:34, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is Umm Safa, article not yet made, on Talk:Ramallah and al-Bireh Governorate, Huldra (talk) 23:38, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Zero0000: Check with User:Huldra/Guerin, Huldra (talk) 23:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, too far south. Zero^talk 23:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In addition this, on SWP map 8, and Dayr Muhaysin on SWP 20, we have:

Umm esh Shukf on SWP map 5 , Dauphin, p. 686, 1526/2337, just west of Daliyat al-Karmel, SWP I, p. 353, Palmer p. 118
Kh. Umm esh Shukf, the ruin of the mother of the cleft (SWP map 17, Lu), SWP III, p. 127, Palmer, 312.
Kh. Umm esh Shŭkf, the ruin with the cleft (SWP map 20, Ix), SWP III, p. 287, Palmer 376.

Huldra (talk) 20:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]