Talk:United States Armed Forces oath of enlistment

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Persons authorized to administer the oath of enlistment[edit]

Realizing that this is a Start Class article and the article is written with the point of view of the Army, I would like to cite the regulations for the Coast Guard administration of the oath for future reference. The Coast Guard has many very small units that the person in command is enlisted and that person is referred to as the Officer-in-Charge; typically in rates First Class Petty Officer (E-6) through Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9). For this reason, many enlistments in the Coast Guard are administered by enlisted personnel.

From the Coast Guard Personnel Manual, COMDTINST M1000.6A:

1.G.10.a. Personnel Authorized to Administer Oaths
These personnel are authorized to administer oaths for regular reenlistments subject to the provisions of ø Coast Guard Regulations, COMDTINST M5000.3 (series):

1. Any commissioned officer of any component (including Reserve) of any of the

Armed Forces of the United States, or

2. Any warrant officer or chief warrant officer, or
3. Any chief petty officer or first class petty officer who is an officer in charge of a

recruiting office and is authorized by the Recruiting Command, or

4. The Master Chief Petty Officer of the Coast Guard or any Commandantdesignated

or MCPOCG-designated Command Master Chief (CMC), or

5. Permanently assigned officer in charge of a unit.

Notice that instances 3 through 5 concern enlisted personnel administering the oath. This conflicts with the statements in the first part of the article that states: "The oath of enlistment into the United States military is administered by any current or retired commissioned officer to any person enlisting or reenlisting for a term of service into any branch of the military." This needs to be written with the above in mind.

I personally was never given an oath of enlistment by an officer at any time during my Coast Guard career. The first was given by the Officer-in-Charge of the recruiting station (Petty Officer First Class) and the remainder were given by the Officer-in-Charge of my Cutter (Master Chief Boatswains Mate). When I have more time I will try to edit this article with each of the different service regulations in mind. A retired Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer: Cuprum17 (talk) 01:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Worldwide View Notice[edit]

This article starts with a notice:

The examples and perspective in this article deal primarily with the United States and do not represent a worldwide view of the subject. Please improve this article and discuss the issue on the talk page. (June 2010)

The first line of the article is: "The oath of enlistment into the United States Armed Forces.....".
This is no talk page discussion on "a worldwide view of the subject" and the history of the talk page shows no discussion.
To open a discussion, is the term "Oath of Enlistment" specific to the oath taken by enlisted members of the United States Armed Forces, or do other countries have an "Oath of Enlistment"?
Within Wikipedia there are 2,087 current hits on the similar Soldier's Oath, but only 11 hits on "Oath of Enlistment" and all are US-centric. "Oath of Enlistment" appears to be a unique term used by the Armed Forces of the United States. Naaman Brown (talk) 14:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article title[edit]

It might be a good idea to further disambiguate the title by adding (U.S. Armed Forces) or some such. 74.107.123.127 (talk) 20:46, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting Views[edit]

Does the first sentence punctuated by the first semicolon of our US Armed Forces oath of allegiance conflict with the implementation of the Martial Law?

“I (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;..."

(Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962)

AR 601-270 http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r601_270.pdf 9-40. Oath of allegiance (PDF page # 47) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.3.63.189 (talk) 02:23, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, you are referring to the Posse Commitatus Act. In that act martial law is not illegal it's just only allowed under very strict circumstances. It's somewhat confusing and I suggest you read up on it yourself to fully understand. Solri89 (talk) 02:12, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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