Talk:Universities Admission Index

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UAI Calculation[edit]

The information provided is erronous for the Higher School Certificate at least (not sure at how the UAI for ACT is calculated), is this correct for the ACT calculation, if so I'll split it up otherwise I will replace the section. Xayma 05:10, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Ok removed it here was the original: UAIs are calculated with the use of several variables.

The average of the three courses that the student obtained the highest grade in, and three-fifths of the fourth highest (i.e. the average of the best 3.6 courses).
Performance in the Australian Scaling Testing (AST).
Overall performance by the school in which the student in studying.
The rank of the student in the class.
The 10 best units are counted, subjects are allocated as units, most subjects being 2 units, and the most common amount would be "best 5 subjects"- however some subjects such as extension subjects take up only 1 unit, although part of a subject, are still calculated separately

Xayma 08:45, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

UAI as a percentile[edit]

I removed the reference to the UAI as a percentile mark. It is not - see UAC's FAQ and distribution tables. flamearrows] 18:57, October 7, 2005 (AEST)

It is a percentile but not of the HSC cohort. It is taken off the year 10 cohort, if a student completes year 10 but then does not complete the HSC, what their UAI would've been is estimated and is used. It is probably clearer not to refer it to a percentile since that might imply a HSC percentile. Xayma 01:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Xayma is right, this quote is from the UAC (here) "Specifically, a UAI indicates the position of a student relative to their Year 10 cohort. That is, a UAI of 80.00 indicates that students with that UAI have performed well enough in the HSC to place them 20 percent from the top of their Year 10 cohort, had all the Year 10 students completed Year 12 and been eligible for a UAI." 220.239.26.129

UAI - ENTER[edit]

The relationship between the UAI and ENTER is better explained in the article on the ENTER. I believe an edit of the UAI article is appropriate, however as an unqualified Victorian I don't feel that I should.

Cleanup[edit]

I have removed a number of questionable statements from the article. If they can be verified with reliable sources, and shown to be notable then there should be no problem with putting them back in:

The UAI is not exactly equivalent to the ENTER. Since different formulas are used, there is no way to justify saying that a UAI of 50 is the same as an ENTER of 50. Also, they are not even in the same range, since the ENTER tops out at 99.95.
It is obviously wrong to say that the total student cohort of the UAI is those who have completed their Year 10 School Certificate. Only those who have completed their HSC (and followed the other conditions) are part of the group who the UAI applies for, whether or not the rankings take into account SC graduates who did not go on to complete the HSC.
There is no source for the claim that pink slip graduates get free beer at schoolies.
It is fairly redundant to say that the NSW and ACT versions have their advantages and disadvantages without explaining what they are (in a NPOV way).

Remy B 09:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I too have done some cleanup via Wikipedia-style wordsmithing. For example, the article uses a wide collection of three-letter-abbreviations (TLAs), and I have attempted to provide the full TLA text for the first usage, and also to wikilink where appropriate. The article also makes several claims about the validity of tests, and it would benefit if more citations were included to support these statements. Truthanado 15:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Calculation[edit]

"The student who comes first in the subject" What does that mean exactly? First in their school's class? First in assessment or HSC + assessment? – 60.241.151.205 11:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

There's a lack of history in the article. What I know (based on having done the HSC in 1988) is:

The HSC in NSW yielded a mark out of 500, up until 1988.
The marks were scaled to an average of 50% (250) up to 1982 or later. By 1988 it had been changed to 60% (300).
From 1989 (I think) a 0-100 scale ranking was introduced. I thought this was called the TER (Tertiary Entrance Rank) at first but I may be wrong. Was UAI introduced in 1989, or was there a TER in between? --Chriswaterguy talk 07:45, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]