Talk:Up from the Ashes (song)

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A fact from Up from the Ashes (song) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 April 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Kanye West song "Up from the Ashes" invokes both the rise of the mythological phoenix and the resurrection of Jesus?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Up from the Ashes (song).

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DYK nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 09:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Kanye West's song "Up from the Ashes" invokes both the rise of the mythological phoenix (pictured) and the resurrection of Jesus?

ALT1: ... that the triumphant "Every Hour" was chosen as the introduction to Kanye West's album Jesus Is King over the minimalistic "Up from the Ashes"?
ALT2: ... that Kanye West previewed the songs "Up from the Ashes" and "LA Monster" at multiple listening parties, yet the songs weren't included on his album Jesus Is King?
Reviewed: Princess María Teresa of Bourbon-Parma
Comment: I've also proposed "LA Monster" (DYK nomination), so I wouldn't be opposed to combining both into one blurb.

Converted from a redirect by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Comment What on earth makes you think that is a mosaic??? It's a painted miniature from a manuscript, as linked. Johnbod (talk) 13:56, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I must've misread somewhere that it was a mosaic. Made a minor tweak. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article new and long enough when nommed, reads fine and is sourced. The hooks all seem fine, but I have an issue with the image. It's of a phoenix, but is sparse enough that you can't really see the 'rising from the ashes' part at all, and even the phoenix is barely identifiable at small size. Surely there's a commons image of the phoenix rising from the ashes, its most common depiction? Kingsif (talk) 19:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: I've provided a replacement photo, but I'm fine with no photo being used at all if it's too complicated. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 15:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Kingsif (talk) 20:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 March 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 17:40, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Up from the Ashes (Kanye West and Dr. Dre song) → Up from the Ashes (song) – No other notable song shares this title. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 00:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - disambiguation doesn't require independent notability, only coverage elsewhere on Wikipedia, and there are several songs that use that title which are covered on album pages. In particular, one such song is the title track of Up from the Ashes (Burn Halo album) and the same song was covered on Rebuild (The Letter Black album). -- Netoholic @ 06:45, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - the song from Wild Heart isn't even notable to have it's own page and can have a hatnote at the top of this article for it, as can other songs of the title. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There are at least five other songs listed currently on Up from the Ashes which are covered on their respective pages. This song was just released and this RM is pretty clearly going to attract attention from editors interested in this song but that aren't familiar with how we typically handle this. -- Netoholic @ 07:26, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but you just added those. A hat note could lead others to Up from the Ashes as a disambiguation page. This song is the only one notable enough to have its own article at the moment. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 18:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, we don't pre-emptively disambiguate articles. Unless Up from the Ashes (Burn Halo song) satisfies WP:NSONG there is no titling conflict. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 18:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and per Tbhotch. BD2412 T 16:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.