Talk:Utsuls

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Hanzi[edit]

What are the Chinese characters for Utsul? I can't find it online. Badagnani 07:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Best translation is probably "海南回族", which is pretty bad, literally means Hainan Hui people. --Voidvector (talk) 09:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, what's your source for this? Is there no transliteration of the word "Utsul"? Badagnani (talk) 17:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are Chinese characters for Utsul: 回輝人. And their language: 回輝語. See also Tsat language. --216.254.161.128 (talk) 00:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why Hui?[edit]

Why are the Utsul classified as Hui? Are they Muslim, like many Cham? Badagnani 07:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Chinese government classifies them as Hui for classification purposes since the Chinese officially recognizes 56 ethnic groups. Abstrakt 06:35, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah probably because they're Muslim. Who knows why the Chinese government classifies ethnic groups the way they do, when it comes to the smaller groups. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"However, the Chinese government defines a 'Hui' person as any person practicing the Muslim faith." This is not true - many Muslims belong to Turkic-speaking Uighur, Kazakh, Kirghiz, and other recognized ethnic minorities. "Hui" generally, not not always, refers to Chinese-speaking Muslims. 19:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)entenman

Etymology[edit]

Is this group related to the Hutsuls? Badagnani (talk) 19:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know nor can't say they are anyway related to the Hutsuls in eastern Europe, being 5,000 miles away. Utsuls are not classified in the Malayo-Polynesian language family, they are regarded as either a language isolate being way south in Hainan, or an alternative theory is the Utsul are possible cousins of the Uralic-Altaic ethnolinguistic groups of Central Asia, Mongolia, Manchuria of northern China and even further in Siberia. I doubt they are Turkic (i.e. the Turks) or Mon-Khmer (i.e. the Thai), except the Utsul share a deeper cultural tie with the peoples of Southeast Asia than with the Cantonese in mainland China. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 08:45, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]