Talk:VISCII

Is viscii actually an official standard?[edit]

Given that is has standard in its name i think thats a point that needs clarification. Plugwash 03:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on your defintion of official. It isn't a government standard.

From http://www.vnet.org/vietstd/report/rep92.htm

Viet-Std: A non-profit group of overseas Vietnamese and other professionals working on software & hardware standards for the Vietnamese language.

It's similial to TSCII. And both groups failed to implement their encoding preference in Unicode, as ISO will only accept input from national standards bodies and the Unicode consortium only encoded pre-composed characters if required by an existing national standard.

Pjacobi 17:44, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hmm at least according to the map given here every character in VISCII has a corresponding precomposed character in unicode. Plugwash 17:46, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Viscii is not an official standard for VN (where most Vietnamese speakers live) and I've never actually seen it used. I've seen VNI-encoded fonts and Unicode-encoded fonts, but never Viscii.

tphcm--208.51.23.195 05:17, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

VISCII is a historical Internet standard created by Vietnamese speakers in the United States. Apparently it is not the official character set endorsed by the Vietnam standardization authorities. That seems to be VSCII alias VN5712-2 as it is officially registered as ISO-IR-180. We still need a Wikipedia article about VSCII. Roman Czyborra 01:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

comparable to ISO/IEC 8859-1[edit]

Some original research: comparing VISCII to ISO/IEC 8859-1, I'd say the VISCII developers oriented themselves on ISO/IEC 8859-1 (or other character sets of the ISO/IEC 8859 family) to have similar looking characters be placed at the same code points. --Abdull 12:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few mappings in common; a comparison in the chart might be in order. --HarJIT (talk)

Naming problems[edit]

Whether a name is "correct" or not, that it is a misnomer in use is often something worth mentioning in terms of allowing people to understand existing content which uses it. I would be more bold in editing the article on this front, but I notice from the history that it has been plagued somewhat by very rude and disruptive IP editors to this effect, so I saw it meet to discuss this properly.

With that out of the way, some observations:

As mentioned in the article already, RFC 1456 calls it "VIetnamese Standard Code for Information Interchange". This is presently noted in the article as being "incorrectly" named.
The Viet-Std group (i.e. the designers of the VISCII encoding) are also on record claiming that VISCII stands for "VIetnamese Standard Code for Information Interchange". They claim to have proposed it as such in 1992; the VSCII article dates the standard as 1993 (although not mentioning whether there were any earlier editions).
It seems plausible, therefore, that mentions of both as "Vietnamese Standard Code for Information Interchange" might be encountered by readers elsewhere.
Although both are attempts to standardise the representation of Vietnamese script (in the sense of, trying to get everyone to the same code), and both riff on ASCII, only VSCII is a Vietnamese national standard in the sense that ASCII is an American standard.
The French Wikipedia uses Vietnamese Standard Code for Information Interchange as the title for a stub article covering VISCII; they appear not to have an article on VSCII. This could in theory be fixed, but I'm not confident enough in my French ability to really want to try myself.
On Wikidata when I first was looking into this issue, "Vietnamese Standard Code for Information Interchange" was used as the main name for VISCII, with "VISCII" as an alias. VSCII was named simply "VSCII" with no additional alias. I swapped the name and alias on the VISCII one, added the alias "Vietnamese Standard Code for Information Interchange" to the VSCII one, and added a "different from" relation between them. At very least, it might be confusing to remove the alias from VISCII when other Wikipedias still use that name.

Any thoughts on how best to deal with this issue? --HarJIT (talk) 13:25, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]