Talk:Vicente Martinez Ybor

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I've redirected Vincente M. Ybor to this location to reflect the naming convention for the man at his memorial in Ybor City and in city of Tampa and state of Florida publications. There is debate about whether the correct name is Vincente or Vicente; in the guise of being bold I've selected Vicente as the more appropriate, and included the full name Martinez instead of the initial M., insofar as when I googled the name with the M. in it the first things to appear were Wikipedia itself, followed by a series of pages that cribbed their info from Wikipedia, and then a couple other pages, including a blog from Sticks of Fire, which spelled the name multiple ways within the same blog. The Ybor City Museum State Park refers to the man as Vicente Martinez Ybor, not to Vincente or to Vicente M., based on a review of their website and a telephone call this morning. I realize this is dangerously close to original research, but really, it's just a name. The discussion page at Vicente M. Ybor included a query as to whether the correct name was Vincente M. Ybor or Don Vincente M. Ybor. In this case Don was not a name but an honorific. Debate is still open on the issue of Vincente v. Vicente but I've chosen to follow the more common local convention. The issue of hyphenization is also up for debate; the Tampa Trib ran his obit in 1896 as Vicente Martinez-Ybor, and the bust of him at the state museum lists his name as such, but in most other cases the museum documents do not hyphenate. It's really a matter of personal preference I suppose; does Wikipedia have a preferred convention for Hispanic names?Thehappysmith 12:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also I've added more info to the article, but hopefully just to get it started. Thehappysmith 13:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite[edit]

This article contained a lot of irrelevant information and peacock language, so I was going to tag it for rewrite, but decided to rewrite it myself instead because somebody has to do it. Still needs sources though. - ∅ (∅), 01:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Zeng8r (talk) 02:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This silliness has been taken care of. Zeng8r (talk) 04:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Information[edit]

This says it is a city near Tampa. This is incorrect. Ybor City is not its own city. It is an actual part of Tampa. The name of the area is misleading. It is right in the center of Tampa. It was a village in 1885, and was incorporated in 1887.

(Myrab51 (talk) 00:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Ybor City was an independent municipality for the first year or two of its existence, and it was indeed founded outside of Tampa's borders. Tampa was MUCH smaller at the time, encompassing basically today's downtown and a little land on the west bank of the Hillsborough river. Ybor City was annexed in 1887, as Tampa's city leaders saw new residents pouring in and cigar factories and other businesses popping up and they wanted to get their hands on the huge bump in tax rolls sitting right next door. So while Ybor City was never an officially incorporated and chartered city (like West Tampa until 1925), it was indeed its "own" city for a short time. --Zeng8r (talk) 01:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

year of birth[edit]

Although his grave lists his year of birth as 1819, pretty much every reputable source agrees that the marker is incorrect and Senor Ybor was actually born in 1818. Also, the Ybor City State Museum is throwing a bicentennial birthday bash today, and I think it's safe to assume that the good folks at the museum aren't off by a year. I tweaked the article and added a good reference to reflect the correct date of birth. Zeng8r (talk) 12:30, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]