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Biography[edit]
Біографія Медведчука Віктора Володимировича
Медведчук Віктор Володимирович Народився 07 серпня 1954 року, с. Почет Абанського району Красноярського краю, Росія. Сімейний стан Одружений, має доньку. Освіта Вища. У 1978 році закінчив юридичний факультет Київського національного університету ім. Тараса Шевченка, спеціаліст права. Доктор юридичних наук, академік Академії правових наук України, академік Міжнародної Слов'янської академії, дійсний член Академії економічних наук, заслужений юрист України (з 1992 р.).
Громадська діяльність 1978-1989 Адвокат Київської міської колегії адвокатів. З 1989 Завідувач юридичною консультацією Шевченківського району м. Києва (1989-1991). З 1990 Президент Спілки адвокатів України. Член Правління Спілки адвокатів СРСР від України (1990-91 рр.) З 1991 Президент Міжнародної адвокатської компанії "БіАйЕм". З 1994 Член Координаційного комітету з питань боротьби з корупцією та організованою злочинністю при Президенті України (1994-99 рр.). Голова Вищої кваліфікаційної комісії адвокатури України. З 1995 Член Ради роботодавців і товаровиробників при Президенті України (1995-2000 рр.). З 1996 Радник Президента України з питань податкової політики (1996-2000 рр.). З 1997 Народний депутат України другого скликання, член Комітету з питань законності і правопорядку (1997-98 рр.). Член Координаційної Ради з питань судово-правової реформи при Президенті України (1997-2000 рр.). Член Вищої економічної Ради Президента України. Член Державної комісії з проведення в Україні адміністративної реформи. З 1998 Народний депутат України третього скликання, заступник Голови Верховної Ради України (1998-2000 рр.). Член Вищої Ради юстиції. Член Координаційної Ради з питань місцевого самоврядування. Заступник Голови Координаційної Ради з питань внутрішньої політики. З 1999 Голова Національної Ради з питань молодіжної політики при Президенті України. 2000-2001 Перший заступник Голови Верховної Ради України (01.02.2000-13.12.2001). З 2001 Член фракції СДПУ(О) (з 14.12.2001). 2002 Народний депутат України четвертого скликання. Голова фракції СДПУ(О) (13.05.02 - 12.06.02) 2002-2005 Глава Адміністрації Президента України. З 2002 Голова Комісії державних нагород та геральдики (з червня 2002 р.) З 2002 Голова Організаційного комітету з проведення Року України в Російській Федерації (з червня 2002 р.) З 2002 Член Ради національної безпеки і оборони України (з червня 2002 р.) З 2002 Керівник робочої групи з підготовки пропозицій щодо забезпечення гласності та відкритості діяльності органів державної влади (з червня 2002 р.) З 2002 Заступник голови Ради з питань інформаційної політики при Президентові України (з вересня 2002 р.) З 2002 Голова Комісії з питань забезпечення роботи міжнародних експертів з питань експорту станцій радіоелектронної розвідки "Кольчуга" (з жовтня 2002 р.) З 2002 Голова наглядової ради Національного палацу "Україна (з листопада 2002 р.) З 2002 Співголова Координаційної ради з підготовки та видання Національного атласу України (з грудня 2002 р.)
З 2002 Голова Організаційного комітету з проведення Року Російської Федерації в Україні (з грудня 2002 р.)
З 2003 Голова Координаційної ради з питань державної служби при Президентові України (з січня 2003 р.) З 2003 Голова Організаційного комітету з підготовки та проведення заходів до 150-річчя Східної (Кримської) війни 1853-1856 років (з липня 2003 р.) З 2003 Голова Координаційної комісії з питань реконструкції автомобільної дороги Київ-Одеса на ділянці від Жашкова до Червонознам'янки (з липня 2003 р.) З 2003 Голова Організаційного комітету з підготовки та проведення заходів, присвячених 150-річчю від дня народження І.Я.Франка (з вересня 2003 р.) З 2004 Голова Наглядової ради Національної академії державного управління при Президентові України (з лютого 2004 р.)
Партійна діяльність
З 1994 Член партії СДПУ
З 1995 Член Центральної Ради партії СДПУ, а згодом СДПУ(О) (1995-98 рр.). Голова комісії з питань правової реформи СДПУ (1995-96 рр.). Член Політбюро (до 1998 р. - Правління) СДПУ(О) з січня 1995 р.
З 1996 Заступник Голови СДПУ(О) (1996-98 рр.).
З 1998 Голова СДПУ(О) з жовтня 1998 р.
1994-2001 Делегат І-ІІ з'їздів Партії прав людини, ІХ-ХVI з'їздів СДПУ(О).
Нагороди 1996 Почесна відзнака Президента України - орден "За заслуги" ІІІ ступеня. 1998 Почесна відзнака Президента України - орден "За заслуги" ІІ ступеня. 2000 Повний кавалер ордена "За заслуги". В Україні лише 16 її громадян удостоєні честі бути орденоносцями відразу трьох ступенів цієї відзнаки. 2004 Почесна відзнака Президента України - орден князя Ярослава Мудрого V ступеня.
[Not sure what to do with this info], so I store it here. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Demonizing Medvedchuk[edit]
- demonize: to portray as wicked and threatening.
It wouldn't necessarily be POV to say that the opposition demonized a figure in government (if it was true, of course), meaning they made him out to be a source of evil. It's a rather strong term, but can describe what someone says about another. Whether it's appropriate in this case is a matter of judgement, and you'd have to have read more news or press releases from the period than I have to decide. —Michael Z. 2006-01-25 23:52 Z
A leaked (the authenticity of which cannot be verified) Kremlin strategy to bring Ukraine back into Russia’s orbit...[edit]
.... indicates that Russia will deploy all efforts to prevent Ukraine from signing an EU pact, and that it will strongly back pro-Russian candidate Viktor Medvedchuk at the 2015 presidential election. ‘Ukrainian Choice’, the political party of Medvedchuk, is envisaged to play a leading role in promoting the country’s accession to the Customs Union. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- PS I posted this to see if this will happen. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
During 2013 Ukrainian experts have argued that Medvedchuk attempts to influence public opinion have failed[edit]
What is the point of making him bigger then he is???? Let's not make Medvedchuk a Bogeyman. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:31, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- I was cleaning the article up and noticed it had "According to a September/October 2013 poll by Razumkov Centre a party lead by Medvedchuk would score 0.9% of the votes during elections" followed by a sentence about his limited influence. Doesn't getting less than 1% already imply limited support? Looking at it again, the sentence could work if we're talking specifically about the EU/Russia issue. It still feels a bit unnecessary in the introduction when there's already a tag someone else left about the word analysts. Sai Weng (talk) 19:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
This man is not so important. But I keep (like in 2013 Ukraine pro-European Union#Police response and my above A leaked (the authenticity of which cannot be verified) Kremlin strategy to bring Ukraine back into Russia’s orbit... post) seeing things were people try to make him look like the Ukrainian Illuminati (conspire to control Ukrainian political affairs by masterminding events and planting agents in government and corporations). I do not like any conspiracy theory and so far these theories he has power seem not to be backed up with concrete facts. Hence I find it important it is mentioned in the lead Medvedchuk has currently a marginal influence in Ukraine. Otherwise I feel we are helping to spread a not based on facts "svengali" image of Viktor Medvedchuk. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 01:53, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe he's closer to Svengoolie than svengali. But don't you think it would be more effective and in line with wiki policies to use the facts to demonstrate that? For instance, one of your sources talks about his bloc's electoral history and support of the customs union. That and maybe a quote from this one (apparently his campaigns have a "miserable efficiency rate") seems like the kind of hard data Wikipedia is built on.
- I would just as soon see the RFE/RL source taken out unless it has biographical info about Medvedchuk not included elsewhere. Sai Weng (talk) 03:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
You seem to have a good judgement (and I am I bit swamped in updating EuroMaidan; that I think has clouded my judgement) so go ahead in making the changes you proposed above at 03:52, 3 December 2013. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:14, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- You fit the definition of a WikiOgre, in a good way. As a "WikiGnome" maybe I can hitch a ride aboard an experienced editor's shoulders and get something Ukraine-related to Good or Featured status. Talk:Ukraine is both intimidating and tempting if you're interested! We can start with something like this guy and work our way up. Sai Weng (talk) 04:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
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Future reference?[edit]
- Medvedchuk: De jure Crimea - Ukraine but de facto Russia. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:05, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Done, and only almost 4 years later
— Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Future reference about Medvedchuk's father (was he a "nationalist" during WWII?) — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
2022 Ukraine invasion[edit]
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1513943691555188737 Christo Grozev on Twitter: "Zelensky's official telegram account announces that SBU caught the fugitive oligarch and Putin's close friend Viktor Medvedchuk. Camouflage and all./ Twitter
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- this has no business on this page, also the copyright is totally unknown, the photo is unverified, etc. 69.127.80.46 (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- it is public domain, no? Cononsense (talk) 23:16, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Photo on Infobox for April 2022[edit]
I have a very negative opinion on Medvedchuk but... a photo conflict is not what we need... There is a reason that the picture on the infobox of the wikipedia article about Saddam Hussein is not the picture taken right before his execution.... The picture should be his most recognizable.... not the latest. And it took me a while to recognize Medvedchuk after seeing it being posted on President Zelensky... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Bad source[edit]
the source for the allegations he planned the UNA March in 2005 is just some guy's political blog. It's a strongly disputed subject and it is incorrectly presented as fact 2600:1001:B101:51BA:2561:FA76:E7A5:2015 (talk) 23:33, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- It does sound like the sort of thing Medvedchuk would do. There is a long tradition of paid protest in Ukraine. And a long tradition of pro-Russian/Russian politicians attempts to link non-pro-Russian Ukrainians to nazism... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 14:09, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Change photo[edit]
Someone please update the photo to reflect his current status. Photograph should be be updated, or another added to the profile, showing him In handcuffs, wearing Ukrainian military uniform. 173.73.188.138 (talk) 10:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please read Talk:Viktor Medvedchuk#Photo on Infobox for April 2022. We have guidelines and recommendations on Wikipedia that we use... that is why we are not such scumbags as Viktor Medvedchuk. We are here on Wikipedia to make a great encyclopedia, we do not do things for selfish reasons (people like Viktor Medvedchuk only do things for themselves, don't be like Viktor Medvedchuk). Here on Wikipedia we do what the majority wants, not what a few people want. (Again: people like Viktor Medvedchuk only do things for themselves without caring (not even a little bit) what the majority want, don't be like Viktor Medvedchuk). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 12:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
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Viktor Medvedchuk in handcuffs[edit]
Hello @Lute88. Assuming and not conceding that this photo was taken and circulated legally, I think that it poses what WP:IUP calls a "moral issue". The photo is most likely intended to demean and humiliate the subject. In any case, even if the photo was not against policy, it would still be up to the editors to decide whether or not to include it in the article. I understand that the photo has informational value, but to me it seems very invasive of a living person's privacy and dignity. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 20:22, 21 October 2022 (UTC) ; edited 20:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that privacy is really a valid concern here, sorry. Drmies (talk) 20:30, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- I ping @My very best wishes for a unified discussion. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 20:34, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with Drmies, your request to delete this image is completely unwarranted for the following reasons:
- He was just a prisoner, not a prisoner of war (POW)
- He is a public figure
- This is probably a matter of personal taste, but I do not see such image as anything denigrating or inappropriate. Such images made after an arrest are common on our pages. See here, for example. Does such image denigrates Varlam Shalamov, a great Russian writer I like? Not at all. Why it should? It tells a lot more about his persecutors. My very best wishes (talk) 00:47, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Seriously, whatever one likes Medvedchuk or not, this is just his image after his arrest, nothing more. The image is pretty much illustrative of what had happen with him, and it was an important chapter of his life.
- It is a lot more important what exactly did Merdvedchuk reveal to Ukrainian investigators while being in the custody. Oleksii Arestovych said in an interview that Medvedchuk revealed "everything he knew", but I have no idea what exactly that was and what can be reliably sourced. My very best wishes (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed totally! Aristophile (talk) 01:24, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Of course such images can also tell something about mental state/feelings of the person being arrested, but this is something very much relevant to the subject of the page. My very best wishes (talk) 01:47, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm on my mobile and don't see clearly. Is Shalamov in handcuffs? I don't see them. Besides it's a photo from the 1930s. Here we're speaking about a living person. His family, friends and colleagues are still around. Showing him in handcuffs is degrading. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 07:28, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, he is in handcuffs, and you do not like it. So what? This is just a reality of life, and the image fairly shows it. There is Russian motto: "do not blame the mirror if your face is ugly". My very best wishes (talk) 10:57, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- I understand from your reply that Shalamov was not in handcuffs. Good for him. Do we have the photo of some Western politicians in handcuffs for a comparison? Or is it always "the others" those whose degradation doesn't offend us? By the way, being in handcuffs ("the face") is bad, being shown in handcuffs to the world ("the mirror") adds something to it, is not a mere reflex showing
a reality of life
, and may require some justification. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 11:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)- Did not you see any documentaries where people were handcuffed and worse? Frankly, I think your opinion is strange. My very best wishes (talk) 15:16, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- I understand from your reply that Shalamov was not in handcuffs. Good for him. Do we have the photo of some Western politicians in handcuffs for a comparison? Or is it always "the others" those whose degradation doesn't offend us? By the way, being in handcuffs ("the face") is bad, being shown in handcuffs to the world ("the mirror") adds something to it, is not a mere reflex showing
- Yes, he is in handcuffs, and you do not like it. So what? This is just a reality of life, and the image fairly shows it. There is Russian motto: "do not blame the mirror if your face is ugly". My very best wishes (talk) 10:57, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm on my mobile and don't see clearly. Is Shalamov in handcuffs? I don't see them. Besides it's a photo from the 1930s. Here we're speaking about a living person. His family, friends and colleagues are still around. Showing him in handcuffs is degrading. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 07:28, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Of course such images can also tell something about mental state/feelings of the person being arrested, but this is something very much relevant to the subject of the page. My very best wishes (talk) 01:47, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed totally! Aristophile (talk) 01:24, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
My opinion is not that "strange". If what one reads here is correct, in many countries such as Japan, France and others it is forbidden for the media to publish photographs of handcuffed people: Handcuffs#National_regulations_regarding_depiction_of_handcuffed_people. This is also the case of Italy (Article 114 c. 6-bis of the Code of criminal procedure). Most importantly, according to the European Court of Human Rights measures of restraint such as handcuffing may give rise to an issue under Article 3 (prohibition of torture) when they entail "public exposure" (Svinarenko and Slyadnev v. Russia [GC], 2014, § 117). In the case of persons arrested or under criminal prosecution, the European Court ruled on various occasions that the release of photographs by police authorities to the media constitutes an interference with their right to privacy (see e.g. Khuzhin and Others v. Russia, 2008, §§ 115-118; Sciacca v. Italy, 2005, §§ 29-31). Given that Ukraine is a party to the European Convention on Human Rights, it's quite likely that this image is unfairly obtained
under WP:IUP. As its objective is to debase and humiliate Medvedchuk, the photo is one of those images that unfairly demean or ridicule the subject
and unreasonably intrude into the subject's private or family life
. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 09:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- I replied above already, but again, speaking about your deletion request for the image [1], you made several arguments:
- "Isn't a detention centre a publicly owned space where people have an expectation of privacy? ". - No, it is not. Besides, the photographs of people made after the arrest are routinely used on our pages, e.g. Martin_Luther_King_Jr.#Birmingham_campaign,_1963, and for a good reason.
- "the image of a person in handcuffs may be perceived as degrading." - Yes, that maybe for some viewers, but this is not a reason to delete such images from WP pages. There are many images in WP some people may perceive as degrading, such as the image of arrested MLK above. But it is an important historical image that improves the page. Same is here.
- "Exposure of a prisoner of war (POW) to public curiosity is also a violation of international humanitarian law (Third Geneva Convention)." - He was not a prisoner of war, just a Ukrainian civilian who was arrested and imprisoned by Ukrainian authorities for his alleged crimes. My very best wishes (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
Stateless?[edit]
Since this subject has been stripped of his citizenship, does this automatically qualify him for the Stateless people category (at least for now)? 2001:8003:AD13:F800:89E:9A3:A388:5690 (talk) 13:44, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think so. Since he was born in Russia proper he may just get Russian citizenship. Crimeans got Russian citizenships quick smart.
- The idea that the EU agreement was to be signed in another language, without translation into Ukrainian, was interesting because it would have meant the signature was not valid, as coerced. Ukrainians do not know what bullet they dodged because 'trans-Atlantic Integration" means to change everything one way to US conditions. In a foreign language Ukrainians may not have understood what 'the reforms' would mean. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:9409:8796:33F4:2E3C (talk) 10:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC).
Added NPOV and BLP tags[edit]
This article need a complete rewrite in order to comply with WP policy. For shame. 202.27.212.13 (talk) 05:21, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- I do not see any neutrality issues in this Wikipedia article and your talk page shows that you have a history of disruptive editing. So I removed your NPOV and BLP tags. If you can not and will not say why they are there they do not be there. What exactly is wrong with the article in your view? You might think that throwing around sentence like "For shame" is very clever... But it is actually a very old crude attempt at confusing people. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:01, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
semi-protection request: Czechia imposed sanctions against Viktor Medvedchuk and Artyom Marchevsky and the pro-Russian news site Voice of Europe[edit]
On 27 March 2024, Czechia imposed sanctions against Viktor Medvedchuk and Artyom Marchevsky and the pro-Russian news site Voice of Europe, which spread information discourage the European Union from sending aid to Ukraine, which has been battling a Russian invasion since February 2022, Russia's long-term efforts to influence democratic processes in Europe and to gain political influence in various European countries before the European Parliament elections. .
Some European politicians cooperating with the news site were paid from Russian funds. The payments targeted politicians from Belgium, France, Germany, Hungary, the Netherlands and Poland. The far-right German party Alternative for Germany (AfD) was also involved.
Medvedchuk was involved in funding and controlled a number of influence networks and Marchevsky was in charge of Voice of Europe content and communication with politicians. The Czech Security Information Service (BIS) discovered that the pro-Russian network was indulging in activities that would have a serious impact on the security of the Czech Republic and the EU and Ukraine.
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