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Vivadi Ragam[edit]


Vivaadhi swara means , two swaras with similar tonic placements.

This means that the tonic placements of one swara clashes with the tonic placement of the other swara.

For ex: Chala nattai or Nattai , the scale is S /R3 (Shat)/ G3( Antara)/M1/ P/ D3(Shat) /N3(Kakali) both in the asce. and desc.scales.

This is Vivaadhi as, the placement of R and G are at the same tonic levels and D and N are also at the same tonic placement levels. i.e. R3 = G3 & D3=N3

As against this Sankarabharanam is a Samvaadhi raga. ; i.e.it employs swaras which naturally follow the tonic placement of the preceeding swara and goes on to the next placement.

For ex: Sankarabharanam, the scale is S/R2/G3/M1/P/ D2/N3 both in the ascen and desc scales.

It is a natural flow to follow with the next tonic level compared to the previous note. This is natural and also more pleasing to the ear and offers a tonal variation to the ears and is easy to expound the raga in alapana.

As against this, Vivaadhi swaras are constrained by similar tonic placements and ( may ) - PLEASE NOTE "may" seem jarring to the ears and hence the older rule was to not sing much of it and they called it Vivaadhi dosham.


The above text has been removed as they are not accurate. R3 is not = G3 and D3 is not = N3. The placement of 3 consequtive notes, like R3, G3 and M1 (Nata and other ragas of 6th Chakra) or S, R1, G1 (in ragas of first chakra), produce the discordant effect and hence are considered Vivadi. VasuVR (talk, contribs) 05:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]