Talk:Wei Wenhua

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More information desired[edit]

Things still to be found are:

~~Date~~/place of birth
Information on family
Information on education
Whether the Chengguan knew Wei was a blogger (or who he was at all)
International reaction

Anything else? Picaroon (t) 02:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name in Chinese characters would be helpful. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in the many different varieties of this writing system, so when I came across the name in characters I was hesitant to add it, as I was not sure as to the type or how to denote its pronunciation, and so on. Is there someone out there more expert than I who could do so? Kakofonous (talk) 05:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does much of this need to be included? Per WP:BLP1E, at least place of birth seems a little irrelevant. Dookama (talk) 08:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He is dead. BLP does not apply about data about him. L is for living. He is dead. Articles about the recently dead sometimes have BLP issues with data about all the remaining living people in the article (esp. family), so BLP can be invoked for private data about them. "Place of birth" is not such a datum. WAS 4.250 (talk) 10:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that year of birth of the deceased individual is not a BLP violation, BLP violations can exist on the article of the recently deceased. Examples include how they died, time of death, potential crimes involved, etc. BLP still applies in those situations about a deceased individual until confirmed information is cited about them because it could be liable to the families and the individuals involved without some kind of verification. — Save_Us † 10:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone here was considering including the info I brought up except along with reliable sources. Picaroon (t) 03:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bloggers write about bloggers. Thought I would point it out to rout possible citing of John Doe's blog. Dookama (talk) 07:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article name[edit]

If I may make a suggestion as with other articles that are similar (murder victims and the like), we should change the article title to something like Death of Wei Wenhua, Wei Wenhua incident, Wei Wenhua controversy, or something similar. In my honest opinion, the subject of the article, Wei Wenhua, is not notable for anything. Being a blogger doesn't make him notable as millions upon millions of common people are bloggers and, before being killed, he wasn't notable for anything else except working as a general manager of a non-notable construction company. The article is centered around his death and the reaction of the government and civilians to the death, thus I believe a rename is in order unless we are actually going to write a complete biography on the individual. — Save_Us † 10:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Jon513 (talk) 11:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This article is going to be 90% about the reaction to his murder. But we should not rush to change the title, but instead wait 48 hours to see what this incident is called by the English language press, which I'm guessing will be a translation of what China based bloggers collectively decide to refer to it as. WAS 4.250 (talk) 12:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Important additional details[edit]

See this article. Badagnani (talk) 09:13, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

blogger?[edit]

He is blogger? blog is ...? --Shizhao (talk) 11:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blog? — Save_Us † 10:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I'm reading to much into this, but could the user be asking which blog Wei Wenhua ran? --Kife 10:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, in that case, I'm sure that I read it was something called ~~Xinhua~~. Nope I'm wrong, that wasn't what it was called, I'll try and dig around some. — Save_Us † 10:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if Wenhua had a blog, it is either unknown to anyone in the press or it was taken down by the Chinese government following the incident. Either way, I don't think we are going to figure out the name of it through a reliable source. — Save_Us † 11:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I ask blogosphere in China, nobody knows his blog --Shizhao (talk) 13:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So... is there any cached page/link/proof that he had a notable blog? Or could people just be referring to whatever the Chinese equivalent of a LiveJournal account is? Dookama (talk) 10:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He could've just been using other blogs. Just 'cause he was a blogger doesn't mean that he had his own site. --Gp75motorsports ^{REV LIMITER} 23:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He not blogger. CNN have fix title Man beaten to death in China for taking pictures --Shizhao (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And see [1]--Shizhao (talk) 08:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

POV?[edit]

What is the purpose of the statement "it is not currently known what Wei was attempting to use the photographs for"? It can never be known why he took images with his camera, but people do so millions of times every day. That statement implies, to my mind, that he had some nefarious motive in taking photos - that he was going to "use them" for some ulterior motive. That seems a very POV, and pro-communist authorities, suggestion.203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:09, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]