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Dead Link[edit]

I removed some dead link about an amp modification. feel free to add it again if someone has a working link...

colaborated albums[edit]

I dusted off some of Wes's old albums. I forgot how impressed I had been with "The Mastersounds with Wes Montgomery", KISMET, which included Monk and Buddy, in addition to Richie Crabtree and Benny Barth, recorded on the Pacific Jazz label (date not stated). There was also " A portrait of Wes Montgomery", with the Montgomery Brothers (featuring Wes), with strings by the infamous Gerald Wilson, also on Pacific Jazz, compiled/produced after his death.

I also enjoyed "The Dynamic Duo" colaborations (with Jimmy Smith), including "Further Adventures of Jimmy and Wes".

Obviously, I was, and remain a hugh fan. Let me know if more specific information can be useful.

Daniel

Influence[edit]

I added a citation tag to the section dealing with people influenced by Montgomery. These types of sections pop up a lot, and very rarely include citations. After two weeks, I will remove the listing unless citations can be provided. I do see that one of the external links supports some of the names, but not the non-neutral statement "By some accounts, Montgomery has been the most influential jazz guitarist of all time, whose style has transcended into other forms of music, including Rock 'n' Roll, Soul, and Rhythm and Blues." We have to know who says that. --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 21:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well after letting this stuff remain for far too long, I've removed it. Any future claim of Wes Montgomery influencing guitarist X will need to be sourced or it will be deleted. --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 20:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birth[edit]

While googling other years of birth came out: 1923, 1925, 1929. Which one is correct? 213.140.11.136 10:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1923 is on his tombstone, so I'd say that's the right one. --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 14:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cover[edit]

'In and Out' from 'Movin Wes' was covered some time in the late sixties by legendary British rock organist Brian Auger and the Trinity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.23.71 (talk) 22:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Smith[edit]

Based on my own extensive reading on the bebop era I dispute the statement, "Johnny Smith was the guitarist in the original New York Bebop scene," a doubt that the Wiki article for Johnny Smith only reinforces: "Johnny Smith . . . is an American cool jazz and mainstream jazz guitarist, although he does not consider himself to be a musician in the idiom."

First, "the original New York bebop scene" thrived in the early '40s when Smith was in the Army. Smith was not part of the pioneering sessions at Minton's, for example.

Second, although Smith could play in any musical setting and therefore could play bebop, he was hardly the only guitarist available to play it in clubs like Birdland (which opened in December 1949, when The Street -- 52nd Street -- was already in decline and the jazz scene migrated west to Broadway, which is where Birdland was located). Let's not forget Barney Kessel and Kenny Burrell.

Nothing in the above comment is meant as criticism of The Maestro, Johnny Smith, and I'm open to any evidence, or interpretation of evidence, that supports the statement about him in the Wes Montgomery article.--Tony FloodAnarchristian (talk) 17:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article has many flaws, the main one being that it's been mainly written and edited by Montgomery fans. I enjoy some of his playing and am aware of the extent of his influence, but there is too much subjective gushing over his work in the article, and not enough of what wikipedia is for, namely assembling and making sense of the public record of his work and its significance. Lexo (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed there. Almost sounds like an advertisement, but it manages to present enough information. Anyone up for rewording it? I wouldn't know enough to undertake the task. Fishdert 23:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revision to Death[edit]

The start of this section contains the sentence, "A heavy smoker, Wes didn't have very long to enjoy his commercial success."

This sentence should be removed as it has no reference citation and is not verifiable. Wes Montgomery's smoking seems to be attributed to his death, which is not support by any sources. His not having long to enjoy his success is subjective but certainly not a fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.112.18.5 (talk) 04:05, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wes and Verve[edit]

I read a story that W.M. was discovered by Cannonball Aderley who heard him play in a club. C.A. then called his friend at Verve Records to come and listen to him. Then Verve signed a contract with W.M. Unfortunately, I cannot quote any details. Hanysek12 (talk) 22:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]