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The White Lotus movement, which is not actually a single society but a "familly name" common to a great number of schools claiming descent from the original Lotus (fonded by monk Mao Ziyuan in the 12th century) runs through many centuries to the beginning of the 20th and cannot be reduced to a single uprising. 218.166.95.146 18:38, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merging of White Lotus Society and White Lotus rebellion[edit]

I don't think they should be merged. The White Lotus rebellion is a single event that associates two entities, the Qing Dynasty and the White Lotus Society. It does not completely belong to either entity and therefore stands alone.

I could see having an article on the wars and rebellions that lead to the demise of the Qing Dynasty that would consist of:

The Turkestan Invasion (1826-1835)
First Opium War (1839-1824)
Taiping rebellion (1851-1864)
Nian Rebellion (1853-1868)
Second Opium War (1856-1860)
Southwest Muslim Rebellion (1855-1873)
Northwest Muslim Rebellion (1862-1873)
French invasion (1883-1885)
First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895)
Imperialist encroachment (1898)
Boxer Rebellion(1898-1901)
Boxer war (1900)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prmacn (talk • contribs) 05:34, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mongols ban white lotus?[edit]

I read in this history of the mongol war machine book (forgot the title and author) that the Mongols when they ruled allowed religious freedom. So WTF? Anyone have more info on this? I think this should be added to the article. DyslexicEditor 06:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've read this somewhere as well. Interesting.ThePeg 21:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Triads category red link[edit]

Maybe the name is changed or someone took it out. I did not remove the cat link from the article at this time. DyslexicEditor 07:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Martial Arts Connection[edit]

"Once Upon a Time in China II" and "Kill Bill vol 2" make references to the white lotus as a group with advanced martial arts abilities. This is not mentioned in the article. Is there any truth to this? DyslexicEditor 07:02, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And in an episode of The Boondocks, a character named Luna claims to be affiliated.--76.28.108.65 (talk) 05:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This Wang Lun (d. 1774) is not the one in Water Margin. --Xihe 19:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism[edit]

The text of this wiki appears to have been stolen entirely from this source: http://www.ibiblio.org/chinesehistory/contents/c11sa03.html

Tagged for cleanup, I'm not familiar with much wikipedia protocol so hope this will help.

kingshiadric 02:17, 24 July 2006‎ (UTC)[reply]

Manicheism[edit]

I-Kuan Tao says White Lotus is influenced by Manicheism. --84.20.17.84 16:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is very interesting, especially when one considers that this movement flourished at the same time as the equally Manichean influenced Cathar movement in Europe. Can anyone elaborate more on this? And can anyone go a little more into the theology & belief of the White Lotus movement? What were their doctrines? The article is tantalisingly brief on this. ThePeg 21:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FLG connection[edit]

There's a lot of talk among overseas Chinese circles that the FLG is actually a surviving branch of the White Lotus. Does anyone know more about this topic? 68.150.243.117 (talk) 15:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good pdf on later White Lotus and relation to Eight Trigrams[edit]

I was researching this topic and created the new page Eight Trigrams Uprising of 1813. Although less successful than the White Lotus Rebellion, it still seems like the same members of a derivative sect of the White Lotus group. Here's an excellent pdf on the topic, which I'll see if I can integrate a bit into this Wikipedia page.

https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/5983/Part2.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaded0 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The White Lotus Teachings in Chinese Religious History By B J Ter Haar[edit]

http://books.google.com/books?id=wLshRPD8lpsC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 18:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Secret Societies[edit]

http://library.uoregon.edu/ec/e-asia/read/hut-two.pdf

Rajmaan (talk) 17:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

@Simonm223: I would have put this on your talk page but it is protected. Please see White Lotus Rebellion and Red Turban Rebellion. The same IP has been adding the same nonsense to those articles. 216.8.145.203 (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry about that; I have an annoying troll who's been making things difficult for me. Thanks for the heads up. Simonm223 (talk) 19:16, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dates[edit]

The article barely includes any dates for the movement. It doesn't even seem to give any clear indication as to whether the movement began 1,000 years ago or 100 years ago. Quite strange! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9c3d:4800:457e:bc7f:9a4c:189c (talk) 23:21, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]