Talk:Wild & Bare
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I posted the Wild & Bare Co. Wiki entry and am objecting to the deletion notice. I question the validity of the notion that the company and the posting lack importance or significance, and am wondering why it deserves the "speedy deletion" treatment.
My objections are of two kinds: specific and relative.
Specifically, while Wild & Bare Co. is a young company, it is systematically carving out a high-profile niche in the high-end market of tea retailing and natural foods. It is situated in a place -- Macau, China -- that is a hothouse of services for exclusive clientele from China and around the world. Consequently, W&B is quickly building its local reputation in the busiest gambling center in the world (far exceeding Las Vegas) by catering to the affluent guests of Macau's numerous resort facilities with tea ceremony and various artisan tea offerings. (I am not a huge tea buff, but there are millions of them -- billions, actually, just in China.) Furthermore, the W&B online site is in the midst of 2nd-generation redevelopment. A new catalog (featuring the photographs of David Hartung) is rolling off the presses. Several video and TV projects are in mid-project. So, Wild & Bare Co. is not a struggling start-up that justifies wait-and-see-if-they-make-it handling. It is established. Growing. Viable. Making waves. Are we only interested in profiling dinosaurs?
One reason why the company is firmly grounded and steadily growing is because it just the latest successful venture for its entrepreneur-founder Jean Alberti. Alberti is a chef first, but has investor-partnered and managed several top-flight businesses that continue to flourish in his wake. He has moved beyond creating dishes to creating a global market. He might warrant a Wiki site himself, but certainly he AND Wild & Bare Co. are a justifiable entry. They are notable successes individually and as a team.
My other objection is relative. I see other Wikipedia pages that are flagged for needing 3rd-party sources. One I came across in a cursory survey has needed sources and references since 2008! Big Boy Restaurant has needed them since 2009. Another has no references except its own website! Whereas W&B lists several credible public 3rd-party sources and three times that many could be added if necessary. Its story is not without corroboration.
As regards content, a New York City restaurant in Wiki, Jean Georges, features its menu -- how commercial is that! -- and its mention in "Sex and the City." Now there's credibility. (It also mentions winning James Beard Awards. If that is a deal-maker, I can add the James Beard award won by an Alberti restaurant.) Chef Jean-Christophe Novelli has a Wiki page containing such substantive "stuff" as the fact he has 21 dogs and was featured in an article about "ze sexy chef in bed." Is celebrity the bottom line here?
My bottom line is that Wild & Bare Co. (a sexy title that actually alludes to Alberti's non-sexy search for au naturel teas in the wilds of mainland China)is credible, notable and of growing importance in a growing global market of retail teas and natural foods. Its founder is credentialed. If more citations or a different handling of text is needed, I will gladly do so. And certainly the W&B page is worthy of further discussion instead of speedy deletion.GillesPugh (talk) 14:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
HELP! I have placed the Wild & Bare logo into the commons twice and still it doesn't appear. Obviously, I am doing something wrong but I can't figure out what nor how to solicit help in the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GillesPugh (talk • contribs) 15:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)